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Google does whatever is convenient and makes them money. Altruism was never part of the equation.

bawolff 8mo ago
Sure. Not being hacked is good for business. Keep in mind that google is primarily a cloud business. That means that they take on a lot more of a risk, as when they are hacked its a them problem vs traditional software where its much more the customer's problem. Security is very much about incentives, and the incentives line up better for google to do the right thing.
- schmuckonwheels 8mo ago
  It's more about when Google assumed full control of the cloud, the browser, the OS, and everything in between they self-appointed themselves as the unelected standards board of the Internet, and forced everyone else to follow their whims and timelines. Some of which are completely insane.
  - Fogest 8mo ago
    What are the policies you view as "completely insane"? I have some I disagree with like how they've handled things like Manifest v3 in the browsers, however there are still alternatives like Firefox anyway. However I think in terms of web standards some of the things they have pushed are also helpful. It's been much nicer having a much more consistent web browsing experience with less things like "You must use Internet Explorer on this site". I feel like web browser and website standards are one of the main areas Google has a lot more control of policies. Is there somewhere else they have much control of for standards?
    - lmz 8mo ago
      Re: the IE thing. Only Apple's insistence on Safari in iOS is stopping sites from basically being chrome only.
    - duskdozer 8mo ago
      >It's been much nicer having a much more consistent web browsing experience with less things like "You must use Internet Explorer on this site". What browser do you use? Because I've definitely run into this but s/ie/chrome/ but with no helpful message. You just have to guess that that's why it's broken
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  - solarkraft 8mo ago
    And you‘re implying making Windows networks less insecure is completely insane?
fn-mote 8mo ago
This is such a negative reading of the situation. You’re talking about something that has been compromised for TWO DECADES. At least now nobody can pretend. I for one hope that this hastens the demise of every remaining use.

Sure. Not being hacked is good for business. Keep in mind that google is primarily a cloud business. That means that they take on a lot more of a risk, as when they are hacked its a them problem vs traditional software where its much more the customer's problem. Security is very much about incentives, and the incentives line up better for google to do the right thing.

schmuckonwheels 8mo ago
It's more about when Google assumed full control of the cloud, the browser, the OS, and everything in between they self-appointed themselves as the unelected standards board of the Internet, and forced everyone else to follow their whims and timelines. Some of which are completely insane.
- Fogest 8mo ago
  What are the policies you view as "completely insane"? I have some I disagree with like how they've handled things like Manifest v3 in the browsers, however there are still alternatives like Firefox anyway. However I think in terms of web standards some of the things they have pushed are also helpful. It's been much nicer having a much more consistent web browsing experience with less things like "You must use Internet Explorer on this site". I feel like web browser and website standards are one of the main areas Google has a lot more control of policies. Is there somewhere else they have much control of for standards?
  - lmz 8mo ago
    Re: the IE thing. Only Apple's insistence on Safari in iOS is stopping sites from basically being chrome only.
  - duskdozer 8mo ago
    >It's been much nicer having a much more consistent web browsing experience with less things like "You must use Internet Explorer on this site". What browser do you use? Because I've definitely run into this but s/ie/chrome/ but with no helpful message. You just have to guess that that's why it's broken
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- solarkraft 8mo ago
  And you‘re implying making Windows networks less insecure is completely insane?

fn-mote 8mo ago

This is such a negative reading of the situation. You’re talking about something that has been compromised for TWO DECADES. At least now nobody can pretend. I for one hope that this hastens the demise of every remaining use.