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They cut the internet so they could machine gun people, not stop them from ordering DoorDash.

Lamad1234 8mo ago
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Huntsecker 8mo ago
Not sure they do tbh, I think they would machine gun them even with internet, it's more about stopping them from organising.
- filoleg 8mo ago
  > I think they would machine gun them even with internet, it's more about stopping them from organising. Yes, but cutting off internet access to the entire country typically makes machine gunning much more efficient (due to organizing being made much more difficult for the people) and much less costly in terms of the global outcry and reputation.
GordonS 8mo ago
Where is your evidence of that?
- kelvinjps10 8mo ago
  They did just after the protest started, and there is no evidence that's actually happening but it's kind of the point since we are not receiving information from Iran since the government blocked them out from the internet
  - GordonS 8mo ago
    There are alternative explanations. For example, foreign agents may have been using Starlink, and the security services may have used the shutdown to find the Starlink terminals.
    - gryphonclaw 8mo ago
      Wow, are there actually people on here shilling for the Iranian government? Recent reports have as many as 12,000 Iranian civilians gunned down by their own government during this blackout.
      - js4ever 8mo ago
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        cyberax 8mo ago
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        GordonS 8mo ago
        FWIW, your comment is untrue, and against HN rules. People are allowed to have different opinions here, such as not supporting genocide or not believing western propaganda regarding yet another government overthrow.
        GordonS 8mo ago
        FWIW, your comment is untrue, and against HN rules. People are allowed to have different opinions here, such as not supporting genocide or not believing western propaganda regarding yet another government overthrow.
    - averysmallbird 8mo ago
      They are attempting to find the Starlink terminals so they can machine gun protesters without accountability or documentation, not because they have a regulatory issue with SpaceX.
- BobaFloutist 8mo ago
  Where is their evidence that the internet was cut to prevent evidence from disseminating?
- Weryj 8mo ago
  The bit were the death toll was 70 after a week of protests, then the internet was cut and in 3 days it’s closer to 2,000.
- wojciii 8mo ago
  This is the third uprising. They have so far followed the same recipe. People raise up. Internet is turned off. People are arrested and killed by the authorities. They are using the death penalty to teach the Iranians that raising up will get you killed. While I dislike trumpism, I do hope that the Iranian authorities will get bombed. They deserve to die for how they treat their own people.
  - GordonS 8mo ago
    That's not what I'm seeing. Why would "the people" be burning hundreds of mosques, ancient libraries, police stations, buses and civilian homes? How have over 100 police been killed so quickly by "organic" protests? And why is Israeli media reporting that they have agents on the ground instigating violence?
    - wojciii 8mo ago
      I wouldn't know why they are burning things. I suppose they burn the religion of peace symbols of their oppressors. I imagine that Israel supports a regime change in Iran, but I don't think that they can run this on their own. They probably support whatever goes on with covert agents. Since little gets out of Iran let's not speculate any more. :)
    - cyberax 8mo ago
      > Why would "the people" be burning hundreds of mosques, ancient libraries, police stations, buses and civilian homes? Are they? Do you have a private feed into Iranian networks? > How have over 100 police been killed so quickly by "organic" protests? Quite easily. Guns get looted and people start shooting. > And why is Israeli media reporting that they have agents on the ground instigating violence? Links?
- silencednetizen 8mo ago
  https://x.com/hey_itsmyturn/status/2011240433310191658 https://x.com/hey_itsmyturn/status/2011240433310191658 The Farsi text in the tweet says: "we knew that since four days ago but we haven't had any visual proof until now" The Farsi text in the photo is a message from a civilian saying machine guns are in the streets.

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Not sure they do tbh, I think they would machine gun them even with internet, it's more about stopping them from organising.

filoleg 8mo ago
> I think they would machine gun them even with internet, it's more about stopping them from organising. Yes, but cutting off internet access to the entire country typically makes machine gunning much more efficient (due to organizing being made much more difficult for the people) and much less costly in terms of the global outcry and reputation.

GordonS 8mo ago

Where is your evidence of that?

kelvinjps10 8mo ago
They did just after the protest started, and there is no evidence that's actually happening but it's kind of the point since we are not receiving information from Iran since the government blocked them out from the internet
- GordonS 8mo ago
  There are alternative explanations. For example, foreign agents may have been using Starlink, and the security services may have used the shutdown to find the Starlink terminals.
  - gryphonclaw 8mo ago
    Wow, are there actually people on here shilling for the Iranian government? Recent reports have as many as 12,000 Iranian civilians gunned down by their own government during this blackout.
    - js4ever 8mo ago
      [flagged]
      - cyberax 8mo ago
        [flagged]
        GordonS 8mo ago
        FWIW, your comment is untrue, and against HN rules. People are allowed to have different opinions here, such as not supporting genocide or not believing western propaganda regarding yet another government overthrow.
      - GordonS 8mo ago
        FWIW, your comment is untrue, and against HN rules. People are allowed to have different opinions here, such as not supporting genocide or not believing western propaganda regarding yet another government overthrow.
  - averysmallbird 8mo ago
    They are attempting to find the Starlink terminals so they can machine gun protesters without accountability or documentation, not because they have a regulatory issue with SpaceX.
BobaFloutist 8mo ago
Where is their evidence that the internet was cut to prevent evidence from disseminating?
Weryj 8mo ago
The bit were the death toll was 70 after a week of protests, then the internet was cut and in 3 days it’s closer to 2,000.
wojciii 8mo ago
This is the third uprising. They have so far followed the same recipe. People raise up. Internet is turned off. People are arrested and killed by the authorities. They are using the death penalty to teach the Iranians that raising up will get you killed. While I dislike trumpism, I do hope that the Iranian authorities will get bombed. They deserve to die for how they treat their own people.
- GordonS 8mo ago
  That's not what I'm seeing. Why would "the people" be burning hundreds of mosques, ancient libraries, police stations, buses and civilian homes? How have over 100 police been killed so quickly by "organic" protests? And why is Israeli media reporting that they have agents on the ground instigating violence?
  - wojciii 8mo ago
    I wouldn't know why they are burning things. I suppose they burn the religion of peace symbols of their oppressors. I imagine that Israel supports a regime change in Iran, but I don't think that they can run this on their own. They probably support whatever goes on with covert agents. Since little gets out of Iran let's not speculate any more. :)
  - cyberax 8mo ago
    > Why would "the people" be burning hundreds of mosques, ancient libraries, police stations, buses and civilian homes? Are they? Do you have a private feed into Iranian networks? > How have over 100 police been killed so quickly by "organic" protests? Quite easily. Guns get looted and people start shooting. > And why is Israeli media reporting that they have agents on the ground instigating violence? Links?
silencednetizen 8mo ago
https://x.com/hey_itsmyturn/status/2011240433310191658 https://x.com/hey_itsmyturn/status/2011240433310191658 The Farsi text in the tweet says: "we knew that since four days ago but we haven't had any visual proof until now" The Farsi text in the photo is a message from a civilian saying machine guns are in the streets.