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He was into NLP (the hypnosis theory) from way back. James Hoffman, the coffee YouTuber, had an interesting comment on how he tried to use that in one of his 9

by kritiko 8mo ago

He was into NLP (the hypnosis theory) from way back. James Hoffman, the coffee YouTuber, had an interesting comment on how he tried to use that in one of his 90s barista competitions, but seemed skeptical of it now. Scott remained a believer.

diydsp 8mo ago
It's a communications skill, like, say, making powerpoint slides. If you get good at it, you will swear by it. But if can't gain skill, it's easy to think it's bogus. If you're deeply interested I can go into detail as to what it's about and not about. Or you can buy some books, get a trainer, or take a class. Tl; dr: it's about adding a second layer to your communication which attends to the subconscious, not unlike art. It was originally for therapy, but unfortunately a lot of businessdorks in the 90s got into it and perverted it.
- kritiko 8mo ago
  I’m interested. Especially if you can point to moments in your career or projects where it has worked.
- soulofmischief 8mo ago
  Social manipulation has been around a lot longer than the books and movements attempting to redress it as "hypnosis".
- tim333 8mo ago
  I've pondered awhile on what hypnosis is. My current model is it's like prompting LLMs, the hypnotic commands are just stuff in the context window but not currently being talked about.
  - Nursie 8mo ago
    I went to a sceptics talk by a stage hypnotist a while back that I found very interesting. He said after many years he wasn’t sure what hypnotism was exactly, or even if it was an identifiable thing at all, and that in a lot of ways he was just giving people license and cover to do stuff they probably wanted to do anyway. You can’t hypnotise people to do something they don’t want to, apparently. So if he says “Come up on stage and cluck around like a chicken, make a real show of yourself in front of the crowd”, then quite a few people will go and do it and come away saying “That wasn’t me, the hypnotist made me do it, but what laugh eh?”. He was less sure how this might apply to (for example) hypnotic pain control, but it was an interesting take.
    - tim333 8mo ago
      The cluck like a chicken thing reminded me that with small kids the teachers would have us run around and then say 'be a tree' or whatever. I guess a combination of kids liking doing that kind of thing and the authority figure telling them to.

by kritiko 8mo ago

diydsp 8mo ago

It's a communications skill, like, say, making powerpoint slides. If you get good at it, you will swear by it. But if can't gain skill, it's easy to think it's bogus. If you're deeply interested I can go into detail as to what it's about and not about. Or you can buy some books, get a trainer, or take a class. Tl; dr: it's about adding a second layer to your communication which attends to the subconscious, not unlike art. It was originally for therapy, but unfortunately a lot of businessdorks in the 90s got into it and perverted it.

kritiko 8mo ago
I’m interested. Especially if you can point to moments in your career or projects where it has worked.
soulofmischief 8mo ago
Social manipulation has been around a lot longer than the books and movements attempting to redress it as "hypnosis".
tim333 8mo ago
I've pondered awhile on what hypnosis is. My current model is it's like prompting LLMs, the hypnotic commands are just stuff in the context window but not currently being talked about.
- Nursie 8mo ago
  I went to a sceptics talk by a stage hypnotist a while back that I found very interesting. He said after many years he wasn’t sure what hypnotism was exactly, or even if it was an identifiable thing at all, and that in a lot of ways he was just giving people license and cover to do stuff they probably wanted to do anyway. You can’t hypnotise people to do something they don’t want to, apparently. So if he says “Come up on stage and cluck around like a chicken, make a real show of yourself in front of the crowd”, then quite a few people will go and do it and come away saying “That wasn’t me, the hypnotist made me do it, but what laugh eh?”. He was less sure how this might apply to (for example) hypnotic pain control, but it was an interesting take.
  - tim333 8mo ago
    The cluck like a chicken thing reminded me that with small kids the teachers would have us run around and then say 'be a tree' or whatever. I guess a combination of kids liking doing that kind of thing and the authority figure telling them to.