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It's for the Scottish. It's in Iran's interests for Scotland to become independent because that would enforce change on the United Nations Security Council. The
by philbo 8mo ago
It's for the Scottish. It's in Iran's interests for Scotland to become independent because that would enforce change on the United Nations Security Council. The UK ceases to exist and loses its veto, then what happens on the UNSC after that is anyone's guess.
- janandonly 8mo agoThe UK is a lot more then Scotland + England. The Welsh, northern Irish and Isle of Manx would like to have a word with you, to name a few.
- logicchains 8mo ago[flagged]
- darrenf 8mo agoManx is the demonym for people from the Isle of Man. It's odd to see it written "Isle of Manx" in a list of other demonyms, but the word Manx itself is far from modern. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_people
- onei 8mo agoIt's the Isle of Man to the best of my knowledge, but the people, and language, are called Manx. Like the English are from England.
- MonkeyClub 8mo agoLet's not forget the Mancs are from England as well.
- squigg 8mo agoThe Isle of Man is not part of the United Kingdom
- arethuza 8mo agoThe Isle of Man isn't part of the UK? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man
- sebzim4500 8mo agoIf Russia kept the soviet UNSC seat when the Soviets collapsed then surely the UK keeps its seat if Scotland leaves.
- notahacker 8mo agoThe UK doesn't cease to exist though, it just shrinks. Plus the USSR fragmenting and Russia (as the main constituent part, the nuclear power and the country the independent republics were happy to acknowledge as the continuation of the USSR) becoming the successor state is pretty well-established precedent for what happens when states fragment, whose legitimacy Russia probably doesn't want to contest too strongly... General disruption in the UK would help the Iranian government a little, but I managed to click on one of the accounts before it was suspended, and its most popular tweets received very interaction (and were pretty banal statements of independence support indistinguishable from stuff thousands of completely normal Scottish people posted) I assume their attempts to seed wilder rumours were low effort and had very little success.
- SideburnsOfDoom 8mo ago>The UK doesn't cease to exist though, it just shrinks. Or as some wags have put it, when Northern Ireland unifies with the Republic of Ireland, and Scotland joins the EU as an independent state, the Rump UK (1) becomes the "Former United Kingdom of Wales and England" (2), or "FUK-Wangland" for short. 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rump_state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rump_state 2) See FYROM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Macedonia#Naming_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Macedonia#Naming_dispute
- philbo 8mo agoRussia was allowed to inherit the USSR seat on 3 conditions: - It took on all the sovereign debt from the newly independent nations. - It relinquished nukes that were left behind in Ukraine. - The United Nations collectively agreed to it. I don't think any of those things would happen in the UK's case. But of course it doesn't matter what you or I think. It only matters what _Iran_ thinks will happen if Scotland gains independence.
- erfgh 8mo agoRussia didn't lose its veto when the USSR collapsed and neither would the UK lose it in such a case. If the UK was in danger of losing its veto it would never allow Scottish independence.
- philipallstar 8mo agoAll that would happen would be Scotland would lose its influence over the veto.
- snowwrestler 8mo agoIt doesn’t matter whether independence is realized, what Iran wants is more time and effort spent on domestic disagreement, so less is available to support international engagement. This is a tool of international competition and the U.S. and U.K. have been trying to do it to Iran (and others) for even longer than the reverse.