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Tech industry walked right into this one, well done Musk.

by Popeyes 8mo ago

mikkupikku 8mo ago
UK government publicly making a fool of itself is probably not counter to the interests of Elon Musk at all... His political faction have been keen to insult the British government whenever possible. The more absurd their public enemies act, the more reasonable they look in comparison.
- flumpcakes 8mo ago
  Musk is implicitly allowing child pornography on his platform. There's no way around that. Apple/Google should have removed X a while ago.
  - mikkupikku 8mo ago
    Come on now. That's obviously not true. CSAM is absolutely banned on twitter, and all other American platforms.
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    - flumpcakes 8mo ago
      Then why does Musk refuse to fix 'Grok' and allow it to produce CSAM? Is this what the billionaire class want? AI everywhere and then hide behind "it's not the AI doing it, it's the users prompting it!".
      - pirates 8mo ago
        > Is this what the billionaire class want? The billionaire class loves this type of shit, just look at the epstein files
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    - cjs_ac 8mo ago
      Grok AI generating child pornography has been a leading news story in the British press for the past few days.
      - jpfromlondon 8mo ago
        to make the censorship more palatable to the general public.
      - mikkupikku 8mo ago
        All images uploaded to twitter, or any other lawful American social media platform, are perceptually hashed and checked against databases of known CSAM. Computer generated pornography, while obviously odious, is not technically illegal in the US. And in either case, twitter has been a dumping ground of such crap for as long as it has existed. In short, with all due respect, get a grip.
        cjs_ac 8mo ago
        What makes you think this is an appropriate response to someone telling you what's been published in newspapers?
        flumpcakes 8mo ago
        "It's not child porn because AI made it" is quite the take. And people wonder why the UK introduces all of these bloody laws...
        btasker 8mo ago
        All of what you said could be true and it'd *still* be wrong for Grok to be allowed to generate it. All Musk actually needed to say was "oh fuck, we'll fix that". Instead, he responded with laughing emojiis and nothing's changed. > is not technically illegal in the US Bully for you. X is operating in the UK and it *is* illegal here (and not just here). X can either comply with our laws (and the associated moral standards) or it can cease operating here. There's weird nerd diving in front of Musk to defend him and then there's defending his AI generating CSAM. Neither's a good look, but one is much worse than the other
  - rdm_blackhole 8mo ago
    > Musk is implicitly allowing child pornography on his platform. That is blatantly false and you know it. Musk has lot to answer for but we don't need to start making up imaginary crimes here. > Apple/Google should have removed X a while ago. Those who ask willy-nilly for censorship always end up being surprised when the systems comes after them in the end as it always does. If tomorrow Apple and Google ban an app that you like, will you still agree that censorship is ok?

Tech industry walked right into this one, well done Musk.

by Popeyes 8mo ago

Tech industry walked right into this one, well done Musk.

UK government publicly making a fool of itself is probably not counter to the interests of Elon Musk at all... His political faction have been keen to insult the British government whenever possible. The more absurd their public enemies act, the more reasonable they look in comparison.

flumpcakes 8mo ago
Musk is implicitly allowing child pornography on his platform. There's no way around that. Apple/Google should have removed X a while ago.
- mikkupikku 8mo ago
  Come on now. That's obviously not true. CSAM is absolutely banned on twitter, and all other American platforms.
  - deleted 8mo ago
    [deleted]
  - flumpcakes 8mo ago
    Then why does Musk refuse to fix 'Grok' and allow it to produce CSAM? Is this what the billionaire class want? AI everywhere and then hide behind "it's not the AI doing it, it's the users prompting it!".
    - pirates 8mo ago
      > Is this what the billionaire class want? The billionaire class loves this type of shit, just look at the epstein files
      - deleted 8mo ago
        [deleted]
  - cjs_ac 8mo ago
    Grok AI generating child pornography has been a leading news story in the British press for the past few days.
    - jpfromlondon 8mo ago
      to make the censorship more palatable to the general public.
    - mikkupikku 8mo ago
      All images uploaded to twitter, or any other lawful American social media platform, are perceptually hashed and checked against databases of known CSAM. Computer generated pornography, while obviously odious, is not technically illegal in the US. And in either case, twitter has been a dumping ground of such crap for as long as it has existed. In short, with all due respect, get a grip.
      - cjs_ac 8mo ago
        What makes you think this is an appropriate response to someone telling you what's been published in newspapers?
        flumpcakes 8mo ago
        "It's not child porn because AI made it" is quite the take. And people wonder why the UK introduces all of these bloody laws...
      - btasker 8mo ago
        All of what you said could be true and it'd *still* be wrong for Grok to be allowed to generate it. All Musk actually needed to say was "oh fuck, we'll fix that". Instead, he responded with laughing emojiis and nothing's changed. > is not technically illegal in the US Bully for you. X is operating in the UK and it *is* illegal here (and not just here). X can either comply with our laws (and the associated moral standards) or it can cease operating here. There's weird nerd diving in front of Musk to defend him and then there's defending his AI generating CSAM. Neither's a good look, but one is much worse than the other
- rdm_blackhole 8mo ago
  > Musk is implicitly allowing child pornography on his platform. That is blatantly false and you know it. Musk has lot to answer for but we don't need to start making up imaginary crimes here. > Apple/Google should have removed X a while ago. Those who ask willy-nilly for censorship always end up being surprised when the systems comes after them in the end as it always does. If tomorrow Apple and Google ban an app that you like, will you still agree that censorship is ok?