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There is also plenty of extremely experienced programmers saying "this stuff is useless for programming".
by llmslave3 8mo ago
There is also plenty of extremely experienced programmers saying "this stuff is useless for programming".
- simonw 8mo agoIf a bunch of people say "it's impossible to go to the moon, nobody has done it" and Buzz Aldrin says "I have been to the moon, here are the photos/video/NASA archives to prove it", who do you believe?
- sussyomegalul 8mo ago[dead]
- fatata123 8mo ago[dead]
- oulipo2 8mo agoThe equivalent of "we've been to the moon" in the case of LLMs would be: "Hey Claude, generate a full Linux kernel from scratch for me, go on the web to find protocol definitions, it should handle Wifi, USB, Bluetooth, and have WebGL-backed window server" And then have it run in a couple of hours/days to deliver, without touching it. We are *far* from this
- simonw 8mo agoOK then, new analogy. If a bunch of people say "there are no cafes in this town that serve bench on a Sunday" and then Buzz Aldrin says "I just had a great brunch in the cafe over there, here's a photo", who would you listen to?
- oulipo2 8mo agoWell sure, but... that's anecdotical evidence. It's not a formal proof, with studies, etc Also in the age of AI this argument would be flawed precisely because that "photo" from Buzz Aldrin could be AI-generated, but that's beside the point
- Almondsetat 8mo agoBe honest: how many things do you do in your day-to-day SW tasks that have been formally proven and have studies supporting it?
- oulipo2 8mo agoThat's just... not the point of that discussion? 1. Most of CS has been formally proven (that's what it's called computer science) 2. Here we were discussing someone who pretends to have "facts" and then just say "just play with it you will understand"...