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In the late 2000s i remember that "nobody is willing to pay for things on the Internet" was a common trope. I think it'll culturally take a while before busine

In the late 2000s i remember that "nobody is willing to pay for things on the Internet" was a common trope. I think it'll culturally take a while before businesses and people understand what they are willing to pay for. For example if you are a large business and you pay xxxxx-xxxxxx per year per developer, but are only willing to pay xxx per year in AI tooling, something's out of proportion.

embedding-shape 8mo ago
> For example if you are a large business and you pay xxxxx-xxxxxx per year per developer, but are only willing to pay xxx per year in AI tooling, something's out of proportion. One is the time of a human (irreplaceable) and the other is a tool for some human to use, seems proportional to me.
- thunky 8mo ago
  > human (irreplaceable) Everyone is replaceable. Software devs aren't special.
  - embedding-shape 8mo ago
    Yes, with another human. I meant more that you cannot replace a human with a non-human, at least not yet and if you care about quality.
    - user34283 8mo ago
      Perhaps you can replace multiple developers with a single developer and an AI tool in the near future. In the same way that you could potentially replace multiple workers with handsaws with one guy wielding power tools. There could be a lot of financial gain for businesses in this, even if you still need humans in the loop.
      - embedding-shape 8mo ago
        That may be, but I still think > if you are a large business and you pay xxxxx-xxxxxx per year per developer, but are only willing to pay xxx per year in AI tooling, something's out of proportion. Is way off base. Even if you replace multiple workers with one worker but better tool, businesses still won't want to pay the "multiple worker salary" to the single worker just because they use a more effective tool.
        user34283 8mo ago
        Yes, I agree. But do they have to? It would seem to me that tokens are only going to get more efficient and cheaper from here. Demand is going to rise further as AI keeps improving. Some argue there is a bubble, but with demand from the public for private use, business, education, military, cyber security, intelligence, it just seems like there will be no lack of investment.
  - reppap 8mo ago
    Domain knowledge is a real thing. Sure I could be replaced at my job but they'd have a pretty sketchy time until someone new can get up to speed.
qcnguy 8mo ago
Late 1990s maybe. Not late 2000s.

embedding-shape 8mo ago

> For example if you are a large business and you pay xxxxx-xxxxxx per year per developer, but are only willing to pay xxx per year in AI tooling, something's out of proportion. One is the time of a human (irreplaceable) and the other is a tool for some human to use, seems proportional to me.

thunky 8mo ago
> human (irreplaceable) Everyone is replaceable. Software devs aren't special.
- embedding-shape 8mo ago
  Yes, with another human. I meant more that you cannot replace a human with a non-human, at least not yet and if you care about quality.
  - user34283 8mo ago
    Perhaps you can replace multiple developers with a single developer and an AI tool in the near future. In the same way that you could potentially replace multiple workers with handsaws with one guy wielding power tools. There could be a lot of financial gain for businesses in this, even if you still need humans in the loop.
    - embedding-shape 8mo ago
      That may be, but I still think > if you are a large business and you pay xxxxx-xxxxxx per year per developer, but are only willing to pay xxx per year in AI tooling, something's out of proportion. Is way off base. Even if you replace multiple workers with one worker but better tool, businesses still won't want to pay the "multiple worker salary" to the single worker just because they use a more effective tool.
      - user34283 8mo ago
        Yes, I agree. But do they have to? It would seem to me that tokens are only going to get more efficient and cheaper from here. Demand is going to rise further as AI keeps improving. Some argue there is a bubble, but with demand from the public for private use, business, education, military, cyber security, intelligence, it just seems like there will be no lack of investment.
- reppap 8mo ago
  Domain knowledge is a real thing. Sure I could be replaced at my job but they'd have a pretty sketchy time until someone new can get up to speed.

qcnguy 8mo ago

Late 1990s maybe. Not late 2000s.