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give it a more thorough look maybe? https://trails.pieterma.es/trail/collective-brain/ https://trails.pieterma.es/trail/collective-brain/ is great

eloisius 8mo ago
It’s any interesting thread for sure, but while reading through this I couldn’t help but think that the point of these ideas are for a person to read and consider deeply. What is the point of having a machine do this “thinking” for us? The thinking is the point.
- DrewADesign 8mo ago
  And that’s the problem with a lot of chatbot usage in the wild: it’s saving you from having to think about things where thinking about them is the point. E.g. hobby writing, homework, and personal correspondence. That’s obviously not the only usage, but it’s certainly the basis for some of the more common use cases, and I find that depressing as hell.
- rtgfhyuj 8mo ago
  so consider them deeply. Why does the value diminish if discovered by a machine as long as the value is in the thinking?
znnajdla 8mo ago
This is a software engineering forum. Most of the engineer types here lack the critical education needed to appreciate this sort of thing. I have a literary education and I’m actually shocked at how good most of these threads are.
- only-one1701 8mo ago
  That doesn’t speak well towards your literary education, candidly.
  - znnajdla 8mo ago
    We should try posting this on a literary discussion forum and see the responses there. I expect a lot of AI FUD and envy but that’ll be evidence in this tools favor.
    - only-one1701 8mo ago
      lol yes that’s the only reason anyone could find this uh literary analysis less than compelling
- PinkMilkshake 8mo ago
  I think most engineer types avoid that kind of analysis on purpose.
  - znnajdla 8mo ago
    Programmers tend to lean two ways: math-oriented or literature-oriented. The math types tend to become FAANG engineers. The literature oriented ones tend to start startups and become product managers and indie game devs and Laravel artisans.
pcrh 8mo ago
I had a look at that. The notion of a "collective brain" is similar to that of "civilization". It is not a novel notion, and the connections shown there are trivial and uninspiring.

eloisius 8mo ago

It’s any interesting thread for sure, but while reading through this I couldn’t help but think that the point of these ideas are for a person to read and consider deeply. What is the point of having a machine do this “thinking” for us? The thinking is the point.

DrewADesign 8mo ago
And that’s the problem with a lot of chatbot usage in the wild: it’s saving you from having to think about things where thinking about them is the point. E.g. hobby writing, homework, and personal correspondence. That’s obviously not the only usage, but it’s certainly the basis for some of the more common use cases, and I find that depressing as hell.
rtgfhyuj 8mo ago
so consider them deeply. Why does the value diminish if discovered by a machine as long as the value is in the thinking?

znnajdla 8mo ago

This is a software engineering forum. Most of the engineer types here lack the critical education needed to appreciate this sort of thing. I have a literary education and I’m actually shocked at how good most of these threads are.

only-one1701 8mo ago
That doesn’t speak well towards your literary education, candidly.
- znnajdla 8mo ago
  We should try posting this on a literary discussion forum and see the responses there. I expect a lot of AI FUD and envy but that’ll be evidence in this tools favor.
  - only-one1701 8mo ago
    lol yes that’s the only reason anyone could find this uh literary analysis less than compelling
PinkMilkshake 8mo ago
I think most engineer types avoid that kind of analysis on purpose.
- znnajdla 8mo ago
  Programmers tend to lean two ways: math-oriented or literature-oriented. The math types tend to become FAANG engineers. The literature oriented ones tend to start startups and become product managers and indie game devs and Laravel artisans.

pcrh 8mo ago

I had a look at that. The notion of a "collective brain" is similar to that of "civilization". It is not a novel notion, and the connections shown there are trivial and uninspiring.