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To most effectively enable stalking applications

by ocrow 8mo ago

bigiain 8mo ago
I have proposed elsewhere that for companies like Flock doing surveillance of the public, it should be legally required for every company executive and board member to have their cameras, ALPR systems, audio surveillance, drone systems, etc - installed outside their homes and along their routes to work and along their routes to their children's schools and their spouses workplaces - and all of that data be publicly accessible. And I'd suggest the same goes for senior management at decision makers at every town and police department and private company that signs a contract with them. "For their own safety", as they'd have us believe. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
- oofbey 8mo ago
  Wouldn’t matter. The execs of these companies are unlikely to be subject to excessive policing. Systemic bias being what it is.
chrneu 8mo ago
...people can just follow you in public. there's nothing illegal about that. there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public setting, nor should there be. anyone arguing there should be is giving up basic rights because they're scared. the issue is when public feeds get recorded and are allowed to be viewed at a later date. the data retention is the issue, not the privacy.
- Dylan16807 8mo ago
  If nothing is recorded that helps but it's still a much bigger problem than someone following you because you can see someone that's following you and they also can't be in 50 places at once.
- AlienRobot 8mo ago
  Ridiculous. Next you're going to treat going to point A to B in a car the same way as walking. Why do you need a license to drive? You don't need a license to walk! In fact, people had a reasonable expectation of privacy in public spaces before there were cameras everywhere.
- turtlesdown11 8mo ago
  > there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public setting, nor should there be. anyone arguing there should be is giving up basic rights because they're scared I personally value my fundamental right to privacy.
EvanAnderson 8mo ago
If I was being stalked I'd rather have public surveillance data that I could compile (or pay somebody else to compile) versus relying on law enforcement, who has no duty to protect me. Making surveillance public levels the playing field for everybody.

To most effectively enable stalking applications

by ocrow 8mo ago

To most effectively enable stalking applications

I have proposed elsewhere that for companies like Flock doing surveillance of the public, it should be legally required for every company executive and board member to have their cameras, ALPR systems, audio surveillance, drone systems, etc - installed outside their homes and along their routes to work and along their routes to their children's schools and their spouses workplaces - and all of that data be publicly accessible. And I'd suggest the same goes for senior management at decision makers at every town and police department and private company that signs a contract with them. "For their own safety", as they'd have us believe. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

oofbey 8mo ago
Wouldn’t matter. The execs of these companies are unlikely to be subject to excessive policing. Systemic bias being what it is.

chrneu 8mo ago

...people can just follow you in public. there's nothing illegal about that. there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public setting, nor should there be. anyone arguing there should be is giving up basic rights because they're scared. the issue is when public feeds get recorded and are allowed to be viewed at a later date. the data retention is the issue, not the privacy.

Dylan16807 8mo ago
If nothing is recorded that helps but it's still a much bigger problem than someone following you because you can see someone that's following you and they also can't be in 50 places at once.
AlienRobot 8mo ago
Ridiculous. Next you're going to treat going to point A to B in a car the same way as walking. Why do you need a license to drive? You don't need a license to walk! In fact, people had a reasonable expectation of privacy in public spaces before there were cameras everywhere.
turtlesdown11 8mo ago
> there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public setting, nor should there be. anyone arguing there should be is giving up basic rights because they're scared I personally value my fundamental right to privacy.

EvanAnderson 8mo ago

If I was being stalked I'd rather have public surveillance data that I could compile (or pay somebody else to compile) versus relying on law enforcement, who has no duty to protect me. Making surveillance public levels the playing field for everybody.