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> If you get hit with a traffic stop, you shouldn't be lumped in with violent offenders. Yes, for whatever additional crimes they have committed. Being here i

> If you get hit with a traffic stop, you shouldn't be lumped in with violent offenders. Yes, for whatever additional crimes they have committed. Being here illegally, that's what ICE is after (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), and they are fully in their prevue to send home people who are here against the law.

languagehacker 8mo ago
For sure, using civil power, since these are all administrative violations and aren't considered felonies.
- flatpepsi17 8mo ago
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  - languagehacker 8mo ago
    There are a lot of reasons why people are here illegally. Over 50 years we created an environment in Latin America that made it dangerous and unlivable for normal, law-abiding people. At the same time, we radically altered what we consider to be refugee status for immigration, and introduced rules that unfairly put requirements on other countries that refugees going over land need to apply for refugee status in every other country, whether or not there is infrastructure or jobs to support those refugees. This is all while companies reap the benefit of and build their pricing structures off of cheap, undocumented labor. We are profiting off of criminalizing people who are just trying to live their lives. You might count yourself fortunate not to be in this kind of a predicament, but it may benefit you to consider educating yourself on the subject and having a bit of empathy for others instead of relying on categorical absolutes.
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  - blactuary 8mo ago
    Nonsense. They are targeting people who are here legally. Cancelling their asylum applications while they are in the legal process and then arresting them at court, when they are following all of the rules. There are also millions of people who were brought here as babies or young children, through no fault of their own, and who have no ties whatsoever to the country where they were born. There should be a process to fix that, sending them to a faraway country they have never lived is disgusting. At every turn Republicans have fought any attempt to find sensible solutions because they want to wield "they are here illegally!" as a cudgel, and they have fooled people like you
  - blactuary 8mo ago
    Is this "enforcing immigration policy"? https://bsky.app/profile/dominicervolina.com/post/3mc3b6soa222e https://bsky.app/profile/dominicervolina.com/post/3mc3b6soa2...
throwworhtthrow 8mo ago
But also consider the new development with courthouse arrests, where ICE and the immigration court officials collaborate to 1) terminate an in-progress asylum case while the asylum seeker is in the courthouse, 2) arrest the asylum seeker as they exit the courtroom. Some/many of these folks did not enter illegally and did not overstay their visa, but requested asylum at the border and were released into the US. The immigration judges are also not ruling against the asylum seeker, which would be understandable, but it seems the cases are being cut short. I admit I don't understand the legal details, but it seems to me that this particular group of people targeted by ICE are not here against the law, and also didn't get a fair chance to complete their asylum cases. I do approve of local police arranging the handover to ICE of convicted criminals for deportation after they've served their sentence.
deeg 8mo ago
First, people should be allowed to prove their eligibility and they are not being given that chance. Second, ICE is going way beyond arresting/deporting illegal aliens. In Boston they stopped a swearing-in ceremony literally minutes before immigrants were about to become citizens. https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2025/12/08/unspeakable-cruelty-oath-ceremonies-canceled-for-immigrants-on-verge-of-gaining-citizenship/ https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2025/12/08/unspeakabl...
- tartoran 8mo ago
  Yeah, people who justify ICE are really morally bankrupt and I would not engage in any conversation with them, it's a worthless exercise in frustration. They won't budge, they are probably very hateful people in real life and take pleasure in some sort of revenge on fellow humans.

languagehacker 8mo ago

For sure, using civil power, since these are all administrative violations and aren't considered felonies.

flatpepsi17 8mo ago
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- languagehacker 8mo ago
  There are a lot of reasons why people are here illegally. Over 50 years we created an environment in Latin America that made it dangerous and unlivable for normal, law-abiding people. At the same time, we radically altered what we consider to be refugee status for immigration, and introduced rules that unfairly put requirements on other countries that refugees going over land need to apply for refugee status in every other country, whether or not there is infrastructure or jobs to support those refugees. This is all while companies reap the benefit of and build their pricing structures off of cheap, undocumented labor. We are profiting off of criminalizing people who are just trying to live their lives. You might count yourself fortunate not to be in this kind of a predicament, but it may benefit you to consider educating yourself on the subject and having a bit of empathy for others instead of relying on categorical absolutes.
- deleted 8mo ago
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- blactuary 8mo ago
  Nonsense. They are targeting people who are here legally. Cancelling their asylum applications while they are in the legal process and then arresting them at court, when they are following all of the rules. There are also millions of people who were brought here as babies or young children, through no fault of their own, and who have no ties whatsoever to the country where they were born. There should be a process to fix that, sending them to a faraway country they have never lived is disgusting. At every turn Republicans have fought any attempt to find sensible solutions because they want to wield "they are here illegally!" as a cudgel, and they have fooled people like you
- blactuary 8mo ago
  Is this "enforcing immigration policy"? https://bsky.app/profile/dominicervolina.com/post/3mc3b6soa222e https://bsky.app/profile/dominicervolina.com/post/3mc3b6soa2...

throwworhtthrow 8mo ago

But also consider the new development with courthouse arrests, where ICE and the immigration court officials collaborate to 1) terminate an in-progress asylum case while the asylum seeker is in the courthouse, 2) arrest the asylum seeker as they exit the courtroom. Some/many of these folks did not enter illegally and did not overstay their visa, but requested asylum at the border and were released into the US. The immigration judges are also not ruling against the asylum seeker, which would be understandable, but it seems the cases are being cut short. I admit I don't understand the legal details, but it seems to me that this particular group of people targeted by ICE are not here against the law, and also didn't get a fair chance to complete their asylum cases. I do approve of local police arranging the handover to ICE of convicted criminals for deportation after they've served their sentence.

deeg 8mo ago

First, people should be allowed to prove their eligibility and they are not being given that chance. Second, ICE is going way beyond arresting/deporting illegal aliens. In Boston they stopped a swearing-in ceremony literally minutes before immigrants were about to become citizens. https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2025/12/08/unspeakable-cruelty-oath-ceremonies-canceled-for-immigrants-on-verge-of-gaining-citizenship/ https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2025/12/08/unspeakabl...

tartoran 8mo ago
Yeah, people who justify ICE are really morally bankrupt and I would not engage in any conversation with them, it's a worthless exercise in frustration. They won't budge, they are probably very hateful people in real life and take pleasure in some sort of revenge on fellow humans.