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I think this is person dependant. A Kale salad makes almost no impact on my hunger, but a piece of bread makes me feel pretty full. Just as an example of an op

by malyk 8mo ago

I think this is person dependant. A Kale salad makes almost no impact on my hunger, but a piece of bread makes me feel pretty full. Just as an example of an opposite experience. (american, vegetarian for 13 years, athletic, former meat eater, long carb centric diet that i'm trying to change)

mikestorrent 8mo ago
Well, if you've ever cooked down a cabbage or spinach or whatever, you'll see it basically takes up no space whatsoever... so yeah, kale on its own will take a while to fill you up.
- dfee 8mo ago
  Maybe true! I eat a bunch (like the formal term of 1 unit) of kale in my daily salad. That seems to be enough, alongside some Greek yogurt and blueberries to maintain me for a few hours. Can’t help eating junk carbs when I see them, though.
  - mikestorrent 8mo ago
    I'm cursed with having a good wide palate - your salad sounds delightful - but nothing ever seems to make me feel full until it makes me feel Too Full and then I wish I hadn't overeaten. Normal plain satiation, where are you?
com2kid 8mo ago
This is very true, and something that people pushing keto (myself included) had to learn the hard way. There are satiety indexes for different foods but they are not universal. I can eat almost unlimited carbs and never feel full. I'll eat multiple plates full of bread or a thousand calories in french fries and then move on to the main course. 6oz of lean meat and some salad and I'm good with 500 or so calories on my plate. I honestly don't get how potatoes supposedly fill people up. I have made twice baked potatoes before and eaten an easy 2000 calories of them along side thanksgiving dinner. In contrast right now I'm eating clean and doing a body recomp. Eating clean is super satiating, for me at least!
- malyk 8mo ago
  Right. My wife doesn't feel full unless she has protein. I don't feel full unless I have a bunch of carbs. It makes life interesting.
- dpark 8mo ago
  > I have made twice baked potatoes before and eaten an easy 2000 calories of them along side thanksgiving dinner. Try plain boiled potatoes. I bet you feel like stopping long before 2000 Calories. Tasty things are tasty and often easy to eat an unhealthy amount of.
  - macNchz 8mo ago
    This is the thing that makes any conversation about broad categories of food difficult—there’s just a huge range of ways to package those carbs, and people eat a ton of “hyper palatable” foods. A few hundred calories of Smartfood popcorn with a day’s worth of sodium and addicting flavors is quite different in my experience than, say, a few slices of chewy, crusty sourdough bread.

by malyk 8mo ago

mikestorrent 8mo ago

Well, if you've ever cooked down a cabbage or spinach or whatever, you'll see it basically takes up no space whatsoever... so yeah, kale on its own will take a while to fill you up.

dfee 8mo ago
Maybe true! I eat a bunch (like the formal term of 1 unit) of kale in my daily salad. That seems to be enough, alongside some Greek yogurt and blueberries to maintain me for a few hours. Can’t help eating junk carbs when I see them, though.
- mikestorrent 8mo ago
  I'm cursed with having a good wide palate - your salad sounds delightful - but nothing ever seems to make me feel full until it makes me feel Too Full and then I wish I hadn't overeaten. Normal plain satiation, where are you?

com2kid 8mo ago

This is very true, and something that people pushing keto (myself included) had to learn the hard way. There are satiety indexes for different foods but they are not universal. I can eat almost unlimited carbs and never feel full. I'll eat multiple plates full of bread or a thousand calories in french fries and then move on to the main course. 6oz of lean meat and some salad and I'm good with 500 or so calories on my plate. I honestly don't get how potatoes supposedly fill people up. I have made twice baked potatoes before and eaten an easy 2000 calories of them along side thanksgiving dinner. In contrast right now I'm eating clean and doing a body recomp. Eating clean is super satiating, for me at least!

malyk 8mo ago
Right. My wife doesn't feel full unless she has protein. I don't feel full unless I have a bunch of carbs. It makes life interesting.
dpark 8mo ago
> I have made twice baked potatoes before and eaten an easy 2000 calories of them along side thanksgiving dinner. Try plain boiled potatoes. I bet you feel like stopping long before 2000 Calories. Tasty things are tasty and often easy to eat an unhealthy amount of.
- macNchz 8mo ago
  This is the thing that makes any conversation about broad categories of food difficult—there’s just a huge range of ways to package those carbs, and people eat a ton of “hyper palatable” foods. A few hundred calories of Smartfood popcorn with a day’s worth of sodium and addicting flavors is quite different in my experience than, say, a few slices of chewy, crusty sourdough bread.