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At the top of the pyramid there are also vegetables. For some reason that is left out in some of the media converge. Kennedy said to avoid the sugary, processed foods that he labels as poisonous to health. (Does any sane person disagree with this?) “My message is clear: Eat real food,” Mr. Kennedy said (Does any sane person disagree with this?)

octaane 8mo ago
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- youarentrightjr 8mo ago
  > He's an absolute goddamn nutjob > He is a vaccine-denier > Anything he says has no validity Huh? Yeah, he's wrong about many things. But hurling epithets and constructing an argument via ad hominem isn't necessary. You can defeat his claims directly. And FWIW, the claim that eating unprocessed "whole" foods is healthy is almost certainly true.
kiernanmcgowan 8mo ago
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- SoftTalker 8mo ago
  > roadkill There are a lot of deer killed by cars around here and people do harvest them. With even ordinary supermarket steak pushing $30/lb it's not completely crazy.
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- youarentrightjr 8mo ago
  > This is the sort of misdirection that requires the follow up question "what is real food?". For RFK that includes a roadkill bear. What is wrong with roadkill bear? Genuinely asking.
  - TehCorwiz 8mo ago
    If it died due to disease that's one, rabies and any prion diseases would be easy to accidentally transfer due to mistakes in handling. Parasites. Mites and fleas which also can harbor disease. Uncertain length of decomposition. Possibly died due to poison, either intentionally or unintentionally which can the poison the eater.
    - youarentrightjr 8mo ago
      > If it died due to disease We're discussing roadkill bear. Meaning a bear that was killed on the road (by a vehicle). It's technically true that it still could have any of the scary afflictions you mention, but that's no different than any hunted game, or any industrially farmed animal. Barring prions or poisoning (incredibly and quite rare, respectively), all of those issues can and would be evaluated by someone who intended to consume the animal. I'm curious if you consume meat, and if you've ever been involved in the slaughter or processing of animals.
      - TehCorwiz 8mo ago
        No, we're discussing a bear that was dead by the road. There's never been a claim it was killed by a vehicle. He found the bear long after whatever occurred did. Also, he then dumped it in central park, so even he thought it wasn't "good meat".
        youarentrightjr 8mo ago
        > For RFK that includes a roadkill bear. > No, we're discussing a bear that was dead by the road. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roadkill https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roadkill Your interpretation is wrong, and potentially disingenuous. Animals killed by vehicles on the road are pretty easy to distinguish from animals that coincidentally died on the road. > He found the bear long after whatever occurred did. Also, he then dumped it in central park, so even he thought it wasn't "good meat" So your argument is that there's something wrong with roadkill because it might be afflicted with something that would make it detrimental for human consumption; now you admit that he was able to evaluate its fitness for consumption, and avoided consuming something that wasn't "good meat"? What point are you making exactly? Yours is the same argument as right wingers screaming "ewwww insect derived protein is gross, don't you know insects can cause ____".

octaane 8mo ago

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youarentrightjr 8mo ago
> He's an absolute goddamn nutjob > He is a vaccine-denier > Anything he says has no validity Huh? Yeah, he's wrong about many things. But hurling epithets and constructing an argument via ad hominem isn't necessary. You can defeat his claims directly. And FWIW, the claim that eating unprocessed "whole" foods is healthy is almost certainly true.

kiernanmcgowan 8mo ago

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SoftTalker 8mo ago
> roadkill There are a lot of deer killed by cars around here and people do harvest them. With even ordinary supermarket steak pushing $30/lb it's not completely crazy.
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youarentrightjr 8mo ago
> This is the sort of misdirection that requires the follow up question "what is real food?". For RFK that includes a roadkill bear. What is wrong with roadkill bear? Genuinely asking.
- TehCorwiz 8mo ago
  If it died due to disease that's one, rabies and any prion diseases would be easy to accidentally transfer due to mistakes in handling. Parasites. Mites and fleas which also can harbor disease. Uncertain length of decomposition. Possibly died due to poison, either intentionally or unintentionally which can the poison the eater.
  - youarentrightjr 8mo ago
    > If it died due to disease We're discussing roadkill bear. Meaning a bear that was killed on the road (by a vehicle). It's technically true that it still could have any of the scary afflictions you mention, but that's no different than any hunted game, or any industrially farmed animal. Barring prions or poisoning (incredibly and quite rare, respectively), all of those issues can and would be evaluated by someone who intended to consume the animal. I'm curious if you consume meat, and if you've ever been involved in the slaughter or processing of animals.
    - TehCorwiz 8mo ago
      No, we're discussing a bear that was dead by the road. There's never been a claim it was killed by a vehicle. He found the bear long after whatever occurred did. Also, he then dumped it in central park, so even he thought it wasn't "good meat".
      - youarentrightjr 8mo ago
        > For RFK that includes a roadkill bear. > No, we're discussing a bear that was dead by the road. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roadkill https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roadkill Your interpretation is wrong, and potentially disingenuous. Animals killed by vehicles on the road are pretty easy to distinguish from animals that coincidentally died on the road. > He found the bear long after whatever occurred did. Also, he then dumped it in central park, so even he thought it wasn't "good meat" So your argument is that there's something wrong with roadkill because it might be afflicted with something that would make it detrimental for human consumption; now you admit that he was able to evaluate its fitness for consumption, and avoided consuming something that wasn't "good meat"? What point are you making exactly? Yours is the same argument as right wingers screaming "ewwww insect derived protein is gross, don't you know insects can cause ____".