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Hacker News fakes posts later ( AKA the famous Dropbox post ) The best web archive is 22 hours in (.is is 2 hours with same top) and the top believes the post

by NedF 8mo ago

Hacker News fakes posts later ( AKA the famous Dropbox post ) The best web archive is 22 hours in (.is is 2 hours with same top) and the top believes the post. Nihilist and a NPC failure to understand tech and industry[1] FTW https://web.archive.org/web/20260103035501/https://news.ycom https://web.archive.org/web/20260103035501/https://news.ycom... [1] Both programming and business logic are rubbish in the post. A childhish view of the world from people who have never been there. [edit] If Hacker News can show posts archived after they drop off page x they should do that. If Hacker News wants to pretend they are archiving history show an accessible frozen copy. If we can't delete old posts because the history matters, this does too. It wouldn't hurt to watch voting real time either over 24-48 hours. This is scrape-able if collected real time. Data project left to reader. No idea if you'd see anything. India votes different to the USA, you might see that.

dang 8mo ago
I can't make out what you're specifically saying here, but "fakes posts later" doesn't pattern-match in my mind to anything we actually do. All of things we actually do regarding re-upping posts, timestamps, and so on, I've explained many times (e.g. about timestamps here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20timestamps%20re-up&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...), and we're always happy to answer good-faith questions. As for "the famous Dropbox post", if you mean https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863, there was nothing fake about it.
- AlexeyBelov 8mo ago
  Read their other comments. Why do you allow this as a mod?
  - dang 8mo ago
    We don't. That account has been banned for months: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45545661 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45545661. If you're seeing their other comments, it must be because you have 'showdead' turned on in your profile. Anyone is welcome to turn that on and see all the comments that have been killed for various reasons, but it's important to understand that if you do, you're signing up to see the worst that the internet brings to HN. As I mentioned at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43538728 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43538728, users sometimes forget that they turned 'showdead' on, then wonder why they're seeing such dreadful stuff in the comments. Could it be that that's what happened in this case?

by NedF 8mo ago

dang 8mo ago

I can't make out what you're specifically saying here, but "fakes posts later" doesn't pattern-match in my mind to anything we actually do. All of things we actually do regarding re-upping posts, timestamps, and so on, I've explained many times (e.g. about timestamps here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20timestamps%20re-up&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...), and we're always happy to answer good-faith questions. As for "the famous Dropbox post", if you mean https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863, there was nothing fake about it.

AlexeyBelov 8mo ago
Read their other comments. Why do you allow this as a mod?
- dang 8mo ago
  We don't. That account has been banned for months: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45545661 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45545661. If you're seeing their other comments, it must be because you have 'showdead' turned on in your profile. Anyone is welcome to turn that on and see all the comments that have been killed for various reasons, but it's important to understand that if you do, you're signing up to see the worst that the internet brings to HN. As I mentioned at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43538728 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43538728, users sometimes forget that they turned 'showdead' on, then wonder why they're seeing such dreadful stuff in the comments. Could it be that that's what happened in this case?