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So where do we go from here? Venezuela doesn't have the capacity to strike back. I assume this triggers a civil war for power. Maduro is a dead man flying to hi

So where do we go from here? Venezuela doesn't have the capacity to strike back. I assume this triggers a civil war for power. Maduro is a dead man flying to his future grave.

JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
> where do we go from here? My honest guess? Cuba. (If I were in charge from this minute on, I’d offer Maduro a pardon, asylum and a mountain of cash to (a) assist with a regime change and (b) tell us all of Cuba, Iran, Russia and China’s nasty business.)
- moralestapia 9mo ago
  Lol, Cuba has zero (if not negative) value.
  - JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
    > Cuba has zero (if not negative) value So did Iraq at the end of it. So does Ukraine for Russia.
  - ksherlock 9mo ago
    Cuba is better location for a Trump beachside hotel and casino than, say, Gaza.
impossiblefork 9mo ago
No, the VP takes over, i.e. Delcy Rodríguez and this has already happened.
- mothballed 9mo ago
  They might as well declare they are president of USA as well while they're at it. Maduro's regime was just publicly emasculated. They already had no legitimacy due to a fraudulent election and now they have no physical power either. Without might makes right (US puppet) or some recognition of legitimacy, any leader is little more than a loudspeaker in a pretty house.
  - impossiblefork 9mo ago
    I don't agree and I don't think it would have mattered if it were true. Delcy Rodríguez is president now. Presumably their military is treating her as the president.
    - mothballed 9mo ago
      Trump claimed in the press conference that we will be controlling their government via her as a puppet and if they don't do what we say we'll put boots on the ground. And I am not even slightly embellishing. So sure she is the 'president' but only by proxy.
      - impossiblefork 9mo ago
        That seems fairly unlikely though.
somewhereoutth 9mo ago
Presumably Venezuela has a continuity of government process, so the VP becomes head of the government? I don't see any indications that the regime has or would relinquish power, unless (more amenable) factions within it take advantage of this opportunity (perhaps this has been already coordinated). Maybe the Venezuelan government remains intact, and now we have the embarrassing situation of a sovereign country asking for its head of state back.

So where do we go from here? Venezuela doesn't have the capacity to strike back. I assume this triggers a civil war for power. Maduro is a dead man flying to his future grave.

JumpCrisscross 9mo ago

> where do we go from here? My honest guess? Cuba. (If I were in charge from this minute on, I’d offer Maduro a pardon, asylum and a mountain of cash to (a) assist with a regime change and (b) tell us all of Cuba, Iran, Russia and China’s nasty business.)

moralestapia 9mo ago
Lol, Cuba has zero (if not negative) value.
- JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
  > Cuba has zero (if not negative) value So did Iraq at the end of it. So does Ukraine for Russia.
- ksherlock 9mo ago
  Cuba is better location for a Trump beachside hotel and casino than, say, Gaza.

impossiblefork 9mo ago

No, the VP takes over, i.e. Delcy Rodríguez and this has already happened.

mothballed 9mo ago
They might as well declare they are president of USA as well while they're at it. Maduro's regime was just publicly emasculated. They already had no legitimacy due to a fraudulent election and now they have no physical power either. Without might makes right (US puppet) or some recognition of legitimacy, any leader is little more than a loudspeaker in a pretty house.
- impossiblefork 9mo ago
  I don't agree and I don't think it would have mattered if it were true. Delcy Rodríguez is president now. Presumably their military is treating her as the president.
  - mothballed 9mo ago
    Trump claimed in the press conference that we will be controlling their government via her as a puppet and if they don't do what we say we'll put boots on the ground. And I am not even slightly embellishing. So sure she is the 'president' but only by proxy.
    - impossiblefork 9mo ago
      That seems fairly unlikely though.

somewhereoutth 9mo ago

Presumably Venezuela has a continuity of government process, so the VP becomes head of the government? I don't see any indications that the regime has or would relinquish power, unless (more amenable) factions within it take advantage of this opportunity (perhaps this has been already coordinated). Maybe the Venezuelan government remains intact, and now we have the embarrassing situation of a sovereign country asking for its head of state back.