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As Win10 is officially unsupported now, non-tech people have come to me to ask me what they should buy as a new laptop. So far I've been successful in installin

by gregors 9mo ago

As Win10 is officially unsupported now, non-tech people have come to me to ask me what they should buy as a new laptop. So far I've been successful in installing Ubuntu or having them install Ubuntu and go on about their life. The vast majority of these people live in a browser. Sometimes I get asked "what's a good app for x?" People who are hard-tied to Windows for some program aren't the ones asking for my input. If they don't want Linux I point them towards a macbook, which no longer scares people who use iphones all day long. If they do that, I ask if I can repurpose their old computer with linux and donate it to someone.

SirMaster 9mo ago
Well they have official extended update options, so it's still officially supported?
- debugnik 9mo ago
  Aren't those only free for European customers?
  - SirMaster 9mo ago
    Do they have to be free to be official support? You get at least 1 year if you log in with your Microsoft account.
    - gregors 9mo ago
      While it is true you can get extended support, their website states the following >>>> Extended Security Updates for organizations and businesses on Windows 10 can be purchased today through the Microsoft Volume Licensing Program, at $61 USD per device for Year One. For more information, see When to use Windows 10 Extended Security Updates. The price doubles every consecutive year, for a maximum of three years. ESU is available at no additional cost for Windows 10 virtual machines in the following services Maybe if you log in they just give it to you? It certainly seems like it's pay to play from the documentation quoted (I'm located in the US). Also, while I'm completely open to debate the exact definition of "official support", Microsoft's own marketing states that Win10 is no longer supported and they advise you to move to a supported version, or enroll in extended support as a temporary bridge to Win11. >>>> Windows 10 support has ended on October 14, 2025 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-support-has-ended-on-october-14-2025-2ca8b313-1946-43d3-b55c-2b95b107f281 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-suppo...
      - SirMaster 9mo ago
        When you enroll in ESU in the US you get these official options. https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/0a367f45c6857e16b622ece2d1576954ede6c19f/hub/2025/08/29/ac5453f6-3b6c-4395-8475-de9acdb9b008/ms-esu-enroll.jpg?auto=webp&width=1200 https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/0a367f45c6857e16b622ece2d1... By backing up your settings to the cloud they give you 1 year of ESU for free. 2 more years beyond that will be able to be purchased.

by gregors 9mo ago

SirMaster 9mo ago

Well they have official extended update options, so it's still officially supported?

debugnik 9mo ago
Aren't those only free for European customers?
- SirMaster 9mo ago
  Do they have to be free to be official support? You get at least 1 year if you log in with your Microsoft account.
  - gregors 9mo ago
    While it is true you can get extended support, their website states the following >>>> Extended Security Updates for organizations and businesses on Windows 10 can be purchased today through the Microsoft Volume Licensing Program, at $61 USD per device for Year One. For more information, see When to use Windows 10 Extended Security Updates. The price doubles every consecutive year, for a maximum of three years. ESU is available at no additional cost for Windows 10 virtual machines in the following services Maybe if you log in they just give it to you? It certainly seems like it's pay to play from the documentation quoted (I'm located in the US). Also, while I'm completely open to debate the exact definition of "official support", Microsoft's own marketing states that Win10 is no longer supported and they advise you to move to a supported version, or enroll in extended support as a temporary bridge to Win11. >>>> Windows 10 support has ended on October 14, 2025 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-support-has-ended-on-october-14-2025-2ca8b313-1946-43d3-b55c-2b95b107f281 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-suppo...
    - SirMaster 9mo ago
      When you enroll in ESU in the US you get these official options. https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/0a367f45c6857e16b622ece2d1576954ede6c19f/hub/2025/08/29/ac5453f6-3b6c-4395-8475-de9acdb9b008/ms-esu-enroll.jpg?auto=webp&width=1200 https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/0a367f45c6857e16b622ece2d1... By backing up your settings to the cloud they give you 1 year of ESU for free. 2 more years beyond that will be able to be purchased.