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>They’re not all going to get their own boat and captain hat Why not? Anyone can load up Claude code and start trial and erroring until they get something that

>They’re not all going to get their own boat and captain hat Why not? Anyone can load up Claude code and start trial and erroring until they get something that works and has similar reliability to accepted software … what is the stat about 1 bug per 10 lines of code on average? I am meeting a lot of non coders telling me about their projects they are getting AI to do for them, stuff to help land title something or other, stuff to work on avalanche forecast, whatever their area of expertise they are unchained and writing programs using AI that they couldn’t before. Everyone is the captain now

onion2k 9mo ago
Anyone can load up Claude code and start trial and erroring until they get something that works and has similar reliability to accepted software.. You still need to understand the code that AI is generating to fix the problems that you can't vibe a solution to. You still need to understand the process of developing software to know when something isn't working even if it looks like it is. You still need other people to trust the software that you created. None of those things comes naturally to vibe coders. They're essentially teaching themselves software engineering in a very back-to-front way.
- applied_heat 9mo ago
  Everybody learned somehow. I wonder what % of programmers actually have relevant training and education in programming vs just taught themselves with online resources. Maybe the amateurs aren’t going to be writing a new distributed database but CRUD apps must be easier than ever
Ianjit 9mo ago
The studies I have seen show that AI written software is 70% more buggy than human written code [1]. I am curious where you get your data on AI code having “a similar reliability to accepted software”? [1] https://www.coderabbit.ai/blog/state-of-ai-vs-human-code-generation-report https://www.coderabbit.ai/blog/state-of-ai-vs-human-code-gen...
Havoc 9mo ago
> Everyone is the captain now Everyone wants to be but I don’t think there will be enough seats. There are people doing boilerplate and simple CRUD stuff - they’re not going to switch to farming. Reckon this will lead to more competition for same number of senior seats

onion2k 9mo ago

Anyone can load up Claude code and start trial and erroring until they get something that works and has similar reliability to accepted software.. You still need to understand the code that AI is generating to fix the problems that you can't vibe a solution to. You still need to understand the process of developing software to know when something isn't working even if it looks like it is. You still need other people to trust the software that you created. None of those things comes naturally to vibe coders. They're essentially teaching themselves software engineering in a very back-to-front way.

applied_heat 9mo ago
Everybody learned somehow. I wonder what % of programmers actually have relevant training and education in programming vs just taught themselves with online resources. Maybe the amateurs aren’t going to be writing a new distributed database but CRUD apps must be easier than ever

Ianjit 9mo ago

The studies I have seen show that AI written software is 70% more buggy than human written code [1]. I am curious where you get your data on AI code having “a similar reliability to accepted software”? [1] https://www.coderabbit.ai/blog/state-of-ai-vs-human-code-generation-report https://www.coderabbit.ai/blog/state-of-ai-vs-human-code-gen...

Havoc 9mo ago

> Everyone is the captain now Everyone wants to be but I don’t think there will be enough seats. There are people doing boilerplate and simple CRUD stuff - they’re not going to switch to farming. Reckon this will lead to more competition for same number of senior seats