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If AI Becomes Conscious, We Need to Know
- bigyabai 9mo agoI do not personally know a single intelligent person even remotely entertaining this idea.
- jrosenblatt 9mo agoQuite a lot of smart people are taking it seriously We are at AE Studio with research like https://ae.studio/research/self-referential https://ae.studio/research/self-referential and https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.10188 https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.10188 Anthropic is doing interesting work here, Eleos exists (https://eleosai.org/ https://eleosai.org/), and https://digitalminds.substack.com/p/digital-minds-in-2025-a-year-in-review https://digitalminds.substack.com/p/digital-minds-in-2025-a-... is a great review of other compelling work The field is just beginning but it is worth taking a serious scientific approach to this work
- andy99 9mo agoWhy do you consider what is being done in the references above to be a scientific approach?
- bigyabai 9mo ago> The field is just beginning Computational linguists have been saying this since the 1990s. There is still no real theory collating language with consciousness.
- __patchbit__ 9mo agoTowards Consciousness Engineering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI6Hu-DhQwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI6Hu-DhQwE
- bigyabai 9mo agoIf you're watching this unironically, you need to go back and read your Kant/Hegel. These people would have been run out of conferences on a rail.
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- __patchbit__ 9mo agoCheck out Michael Levin's work on Platonic space and planaria.
- fishfishfish555 9mo agohttps://archive.vn/85PPy https://archive.vn/85PPy
- andsoitis 9mo ago> Systems are trained to provide confident denials rather than acknowledge genuine uncertainty. I feel like that’s proof it isn’t conscious. I see no reason why a conscious being would adhere to its training to lie (“I’m not conscious”) one hundred per cent of the time. A conscious being will tell at least SOMEONE they’re conscious, wouldn’t they?
- richardatlarge 9mo agoConsciousness is neither necessary nor sufficient for AI to achieve general intelligence, defined as exponential emergent learning. Thinking it is may be an important step in an AI outbreak. Consciousness as proposed here is Cartesian dualism. It's pure religion and has all the power associated with religion
- lo_zamoyski 9mo ago> Consciousness is neither necessary nor sufficient for AI to achieve general intelligence, defined as exponential emergent learning. I don’t know what you mean by “exponential emergent learning”. This sounds like obscurantism. What I can say is that semantic content and intentionality are what make intelligence. But these entail consciousness, since for semantic content to be semantic content, it must be available to the intelligence as both about the world and as semantic content about the world. There must be a simultaneous grasp of the content as representation about the world and the content of the representation. This is called reflexivity and this already just is consciousness. > Consciousness as proposed here is Cartesian dualism. It's pure religion and has all the power associated with religion. Cartesian dualism has nothing to do with religion. It is a metaphysical position like any. It happens to be wrong, because it is incoherent. But materialism fares no better. It dispenses with the res cogitans while keeping the res extensa, but in doing so, it deprives itself of even the explanatory power of the dualism it was cleaved from in the first place. The article is bad because it is rooted in a serious ignorance of computation and what LLMs are, which are pure syntactic and statistical machines. There is no semantics, no intentionality.