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Langjam-Gamejam Devlog: Making a language, compiler, VM and 5 games in 52 hours

121 points by suioir 9mo ago

citbl 9mo ago
I've been amazed by this jam. It's like bigger and better every year (in terms of jams going deeper and deeper). I imagine we're 5 years away of "Make your own OS, language, compiler, VM and game in 12 minutes, 36 seconds. Extra points if you gave yourself a stroke."
- Waterluvian 9mo ago
  If you want to make a game about apple pie from scratch…
  - falcor84 9mo ago
    That could actually be really cool: Create a simulation of a universe with arbitrary physical laws, have it evolve sentient life, and submit the first video game they develop which matches the theme. The theme this year is "rotations". You have 48 hours. Go.
homarp 9mo ago
previous discussion of the jam https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46097671 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46097671
cmrx64 9mo ago
A decade ago I ran several “seven hour roguelikes”, https://web.archive.org/web/20160321153532/http://people.clarkson.edu/~richarcm/7hrl/2015/ https://web.archive.org/web/20160321153532/http://people.cla... is the documentation from the first one. The first year I spent six hours writing one of the first ecs crates in Rust and then an hour turning it into a game. lots of fun! you can search “7HRL” on github to find the historical participants not too ashamed to publicize their code at the end. A few dozen people enjoyed this.
syn-nine 9mo ago
author here, thanks for reading, happy to answer any questions you have! edit: in before anyone asks: no AI (LLMs/GenAI etc) was used at all in this project.
- syn-nine 9mo ago
  if you want to try out the Knots game that I submitted to the jam you can find it here: https://syn9dev.itch.io/knots https://syn9dev.itch.io/knots
- amarant 9mo ago
  How pleased are you with garlang? What's the dev experience like with your new language? Given the time constraints I imagine there are a few rough edges, but it's clearly possible to make games ridiculously fast with it! Any language feature that you are particularly excited about?
  - syn-nine 9mo ago
    Thanks! I really like how I combined the parameter stack and scratchpad from FORTH with the call stack from x86 style assembly. It makes it really easy to get multiple return values from functions. I also really like how lists and the loadat and storeat bytecodes turned out. It became a really elegant way to chain list indexes by pushing and popping addresses from the parameter stack. This was my first use of the scratchpad pattern and I felt like it was a very nice solution to returning temporarily allocated memory up the call chain / up scope without requiring memory management. I was also really pleased with how the new() keyword recursively deep copies something out of scratch to the heap. It could use some cleanup though as the speed of the jam left little time to think about doing things in a sustainable way. I'm not sure I like the var keyword as I typically prefer to be explicit about types. It really turned out pretty powerful though and I think it could be really useful as a library for game scripting.
    - amarant 9mo ago
      That's really cool! Actually sounds like it could be worth the effort to clean it up and bring it to a stable release! I like the idea of a language made from the metal up with game dev in mind!

121 points by suioir 9mo ago

citbl 9mo ago

I've been amazed by this jam. It's like bigger and better every year (in terms of jams going deeper and deeper). I imagine we're 5 years away of "Make your own OS, language, compiler, VM and game in 12 minutes, 36 seconds. Extra points if you gave yourself a stroke."

Waterluvian 9mo ago
If you want to make a game about apple pie from scratch…
- falcor84 9mo ago
  That could actually be really cool: Create a simulation of a universe with arbitrary physical laws, have it evolve sentient life, and submit the first video game they develop which matches the theme. The theme this year is "rotations". You have 48 hours. Go.

homarp 9mo ago

previous discussion of the jam https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46097671 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46097671

cmrx64 9mo ago

A decade ago I ran several “seven hour roguelikes”, https://web.archive.org/web/20160321153532/http://people.clarkson.edu/~richarcm/7hrl/2015/ https://web.archive.org/web/20160321153532/http://people.cla... is the documentation from the first one. The first year I spent six hours writing one of the first ecs crates in Rust and then an hour turning it into a game. lots of fun! you can search “7HRL” on github to find the historical participants not too ashamed to publicize their code at the end. A few dozen people enjoyed this.

syn-nine 9mo ago

author here, thanks for reading, happy to answer any questions you have! edit: in before anyone asks: no AI (LLMs/GenAI etc) was used at all in this project.

syn-nine 9mo ago
if you want to try out the Knots game that I submitted to the jam you can find it here: https://syn9dev.itch.io/knots https://syn9dev.itch.io/knots
amarant 9mo ago
How pleased are you with garlang? What's the dev experience like with your new language? Given the time constraints I imagine there are a few rough edges, but it's clearly possible to make games ridiculously fast with it! Any language feature that you are particularly excited about?
- syn-nine 9mo ago
  Thanks! I really like how I combined the parameter stack and scratchpad from FORTH with the call stack from x86 style assembly. It makes it really easy to get multiple return values from functions. I also really like how lists and the loadat and storeat bytecodes turned out. It became a really elegant way to chain list indexes by pushing and popping addresses from the parameter stack. This was my first use of the scratchpad pattern and I felt like it was a very nice solution to returning temporarily allocated memory up the call chain / up scope without requiring memory management. I was also really pleased with how the new() keyword recursively deep copies something out of scratch to the heap. It could use some cleanup though as the speed of the jam left little time to think about doing things in a sustainable way. I'm not sure I like the var keyword as I typically prefer to be explicit about types. It really turned out pretty powerful though and I think it could be really useful as a library for game scripting.
  - amarant 9mo ago
    That's really cool! Actually sounds like it could be worth the effort to clean it up and bring it to a stable release! I like the idea of a language made from the metal up with game dev in mind!