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You let them oust Brendan Eich. I have no sympathy whatsoever because you let the charlatans into the project and now you’re complaining. Nobody stood up for B

You let them oust Brendan Eich. I have no sympathy whatsoever because you let the charlatans into the project and now you’re complaining. Nobody stood up for Brendan. Nobody is going to stand up for you.

LaGrange 9mo ago
Brendan Eich was garbage, though, and on top of that he made Brave which is basically a joke, so not exactly missing him.
- Levitz 9mo ago
  In what way is Brave a joke? I ask because it's what I look at whenever I think about finally dropping Firefox
  - someNameIG 9mo ago
    Not who you were asking but my reasons for thinking Brave is a joke. First they're a cypto/addtech company, which is a type of company I wouldn't trust to run my browser. And this has resulted in them doing things in the past like: Blocking ads and replacing them with their own ad networks ads: https://archive.is/W0k4j https://archive.is/W0k4j Their rewards crypto was opt-in for creators. Making it look like creators were openly asking for donations in Braves crypto currency without their consent. They had to change this due to complaints: https://brave.com/blog/rewards-update/ https://brave.com/blog/rewards-update/ Inserting their own affiliate links: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff... Installing a non-free VPN without user consent: https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-browser-installs-vpn-windows/ https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-browser-installs-vpn-wi... They criticise the effectiveness of ad block testing websites, and urge people to use and trust privacytests.org instead. They fail to mention the conflict of interest in that privacytests is run by a Brave employee. https://brave.com/blog/adblocker-testing-websites-harm-users/ https://brave.com/blog/adblocker-testing-websites-harm-users...
bjord 9mo ago
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the_biot 9mo ago
I have to wonder, who are you talking to?
- deleted 9mo ago
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- Pannoniae 9mo ago
  It's a bit of a generic complaint, but quite apt for the subject matter. Mission creep kills projects, and that's true across a broad range of activities. More specifically in the case of software, egos kill projects, and expanding the scope of your project to include broader economic or social causes usually does the same. This is correlated to a huge change in nerd culture - pseudonymity was much more common and encouraged, with people's real-life identities or views not really taken into account. ("on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog") Social media happened, and now most people use their real-world identities and carry their real-life worldview into the internet. This had a huge negative effect on internet toxicity and interpersonal trust, and Eich is a good example of that - auxiliary things being dredged up about someone, used as a cudgel against them for their real or perceived transgressions. The end result is that effective project management has become a rare breed and we see all these colossal failures like Firefox...
schmuckonwheels 9mo ago
That was the beginning of the end. A symptom not the cause. Once you inject politics into your organization the project is doomed.
OptionX 9mo ago
Did you?
alphager 9mo ago
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LaGrange 9mo ago

Brendan Eich was garbage, though, and on top of that he made Brave which is basically a joke, so not exactly missing him.

Levitz 9mo ago
In what way is Brave a joke? I ask because it's what I look at whenever I think about finally dropping Firefox
- someNameIG 9mo ago
  Not who you were asking but my reasons for thinking Brave is a joke. First they're a cypto/addtech company, which is a type of company I wouldn't trust to run my browser. And this has resulted in them doing things in the past like: Blocking ads and replacing them with their own ad networks ads: https://archive.is/W0k4j https://archive.is/W0k4j Their rewards crypto was opt-in for creators. Making it look like creators were openly asking for donations in Braves crypto currency without their consent. They had to change this due to complaints: https://brave.com/blog/rewards-update/ https://brave.com/blog/rewards-update/ Inserting their own affiliate links: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff... Installing a non-free VPN without user consent: https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-browser-installs-vpn-windows/ https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-browser-installs-vpn-wi... They criticise the effectiveness of ad block testing websites, and urge people to use and trust privacytests.org instead. They fail to mention the conflict of interest in that privacytests is run by a Brave employee. https://brave.com/blog/adblocker-testing-websites-harm-users/ https://brave.com/blog/adblocker-testing-websites-harm-users...

bjord 9mo ago

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the_biot 9mo ago

I have to wonder, who are you talking to?

deleted 9mo ago
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Pannoniae 9mo ago
It's a bit of a generic complaint, but quite apt for the subject matter. Mission creep kills projects, and that's true across a broad range of activities. More specifically in the case of software, egos kill projects, and expanding the scope of your project to include broader economic or social causes usually does the same. This is correlated to a huge change in nerd culture - pseudonymity was much more common and encouraged, with people's real-life identities or views not really taken into account. ("on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog") Social media happened, and now most people use their real-world identities and carry their real-life worldview into the internet. This had a huge negative effect on internet toxicity and interpersonal trust, and Eich is a good example of that - auxiliary things being dredged up about someone, used as a cudgel against them for their real or perceived transgressions. The end result is that effective project management has become a rare breed and we see all these colossal failures like Firefox...

schmuckonwheels 9mo ago

That was the beginning of the end. A symptom not the cause. Once you inject politics into your organization the project is doomed.

OptionX 9mo ago

Did you?

alphager 9mo ago

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