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With these changes, three things hold: 1. Services like blacksmith and WarpBuild (I'm the founder) are still cheaper than GitHub hosted runners, even after inc
by suryao 9mo ago
With these changes, three things hold:
1. Services like blacksmith and WarpBuild (I'm the founder) are still cheaper than GitHub hosted runners, even after including the $0.002/min self-hosting tax.
2. The biggest lever for controlling costs now is reducing the number of minutes used in CI. Given how slow Github's runners are, or even the ones on AWS compared to our baremetal processor single core performance + nvme disks, it makes even more sense to use WarpBuild. This actually makes a better case for moving from slow AWS instances running with actions-runner-controller etc. to WarpBuild!
3. Messaging this to most users is harder since the first reaction is that Github options make more sense. After some rational thought, it is the opposite.
Overall - it is worse for Github users, but options like blacksmith and WarpBuild are still the better option.
- cprecioso 9mo agoI checked the WarpBuild website and got excited because the header in the menu says you have macOS Intel runners, but then you click through and it doesn't seem to be so? Right now at my company our biggest complaint are macOS Intel runners from GitHub which somehow take 15+ minutes to provision and are the slowest of the bunch.
- suryao 9mo agoWe only have macos arm64 (M-series) runners. Can you point me to the intel reference so I can fix it?
- mattraibert 9mo agoHover the top nav. Under "CI Runners" it's says: macOS Runners Apple Silicon and Intel support
- suryao 9mo agofixed it - sorry about that.
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- joshstrange 9mo agoI can assure you WarpBuild has Mac runners that work very well. When I first switched GH only offered 1 Mac runner and it was horribly slow. Literally cut my build times in half by changing 1 line in my workflow file to use the WB runner. Nowadays GH has more sizes by WB continues to beat them in price and performance. It’s highway robbery what GH charges for the crap they provide. I can highly recommend WarpBuild for Mac (and Linux) runners.
- cprecioso 9mo agoI was talking specifically of macOS Intel runners. The sibling comment from the founder confirmed they don't have them.
- hanwenn 9mo ago"WarpBuild are still the better option." what makes you think they won't hike the control plane price again? They can turn this knob arbitrarily to put you out of business.
- suryao 9mo agoThe statement regarding the better option is as it stands today and does not account for all possible futures. Reg. hiking it again, they'd have to either be extremely anti-competitive and selectively apply the pricing OR apply the hike uniformly by about double the current value to match our pricing while making it completely unviable for any large co to use self-hosted github actions in the first place.