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I dont think the Flash model discussed in the article is 30B Their benchmark table shows it beating Qwen3-235B-A22B Does "Flash" in the name of a Qwen model i
by plipt 9mo ago
I dont think the Flash model discussed in the article is 30B
Their benchmark table shows it beating Qwen3-235B-A22B
Does "Flash" in the name of a Qwen model indicate a model-as-a-service and not open weights?
- red2awn 9mo agoFlash is a closed weight version of https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3-Omni-30B-A3B-Instruct https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3-Omni-30B-A3B-Instruct (it is 30B but with addtional training on top of the open weight release). They deploy the flash version on Qwen's own chat.
- plipt 9mo agoThanks Was it being closed weight obvious to you from the article? Trying to understand why I was confused. Had not seen the "Flash" designation before Also 30B models can beat a semi-recent 235B with just some additional training?
- red2awn 9mo agoThey had a Flash variant released alongside the original open weight release. It is also mentioned in Section 5 of the paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.17765 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.17765 For the evals it's probably just trained on a lot of the benchmark adjacent datasets compared to the 235B model. Similar thing happened on other model today: https://x.com/NousResearch/status/1998536543565127968 https://x.com/NousResearch/status/1998536543565127968 (a 30B model trained specifically to do well in maths get near SOTA scores)