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> Have people switched en masse to them? Nope. Business, sure, but there are millions of consumers who exclusively use Google Docs, iWork, or other Office alte
by pxeboot 9mo ago
> Have people switched en masse to them? Nope.
Business, sure, but there are millions of consumers who exclusively use Google Docs, iWork, or other Office alternatives.
- shiroiuma 9mo agoYeah, but they're already gone, and you can only milk them for so much. Businesses and governments are a totally different matter: they're not going to switch to the alternatives no matter what, so MS could make a lot more profit by jacking up their prices massively. $10,000 per user per year is totally doable I think.
- esafak 9mo agoGovernments in Europe are increasingly ditching Microsoft, goaded by souring relations between the continents.
- 6510 9mo agoDon't underestimate the rage from citizens who receive important documents and sheets in formats they can't open. Or you can open them but with a warning that some functionality might be lost. (reads like: you might go to prison)
- couscouspie 9mo agoThat's a Microsoft problem, not a FOSS problem though.
- anonzzzies 9mo agoMy gov is moving 100% of documents, forms, official stuff to web based without browser plugins. Of course unfortunately if you want to download/print (...) it will be pdf, but outside that, all filling in, editing, reading etc of all citizen facing materials must be possible with a modern web browser. If PDF is only the export for the final doc, I am ok with it; I can fill ut with whatever browser on whatever device. This should be the mandatory basics imho.
- kakacik 9mo agoDon't over-estimate that neither. Things can be done in such ways that there is nothing visibly incompatible (ie scripting behind some forms), you can always just print and fill the document if needed, and anyway most documents are static pdfs with optional plus for filling some fields in computer.
- 6510 9mo agoFor us it isn't a very big deal. We will dig out the data points with our bare hands if we have to. (in ways that would make a data analyst scream) For normal users the experience is more like ransomware.
- Delk 9mo agoI can't think of any official documents I'd be getting in Office file formats. Forms are mostly web ones or in some cases PDF, read-only documents are PDF. Maybe you can submit some documents or attachments in the Word format as a citizen but I wouldn't be surprised if PDF is already required anyway, or an image format for scans. I'd be more worried about document interoperability between government agencies and other organizations such as companies that do work for the government. The government could of course mandate contractors to use an open source office suite which would extend the need for training to those companies. Also, I've seen some orgs make heavy use of Office formats in terms of e.g. surprisingly elaborate formatting, document history and comments, and although I haven't tried to use those in LibreOffice, I wouldn't be sure it supports all of those in the same extent some people have learned to use them in Office.
- expedition32 9mo agoThis is what can end Microsoft domination. The US is becoming a hostile power.
- bluecalm 9mo agoI really hope that happens but I see those announcement as negotiating tactics. Switching will cost a lot (in training, unavoidable delays and mistakes etc.) and both parties will have incentives to go back to good old days. I hope I am wrong on this. I hate that public infrastructure and bureaucracy runs on Microsoft.
- calenti 9mo agoDitching for what?