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Didn't that anti-corruption agency end up being corrupt too? Hard to follow all this stuff.

by heurist 9mo ago

Muromec 9mo ago
Nah, they are fine. They ate head of presidents office alive last week. Add: it's also not one anticorruption agency, but the whole bunch of them -- law enforcement one (think of FBI, but investigating corruption in government), special prosecutors office, another agency monitoring assets of anyone close enough to government (including immigration officers on a country level) and their family and a whole separate court with judges vetted by independent panel. It's elections of Doge of Venice level of indirection.
- perihelions 9mo ago
  > "Nah, they are fine. They ate head of presidents office alive last week." That's the same guy who tried to take over that anti-corruption office. He would be controlling it now, if it weren't for the massive country-wide protests about it. I'm not sure that they're doing fine. Economist, July 2025: > "On July 22nd the Rada, Ukraine’s parliament, passed a bill that would place the country’s two main anti-corruption bodies—NABU, which investigates wrongdoing, and SAPO, which prosecutes it—under the control of the presidency. This was not the work of rogue MPs. It was orchestrated from the top by President Volodymyr Zelensky and his all-powerful chief of staff, Andriy Yermak." https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/07/23/volodymyr-zelensky-has-made-a-strategic-blunder https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/07/23/volodymyr-zelen... ( https://archive.is/kYh4w https://archive.is/kYh4w ) BBC, last week: "...was forced to U-turn after mass demonstrations", https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz0nljm4y74o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz0nljm4y74o ("Andriy Yermak: How Zelensky's right-hand man fell from power" / "Fall of Zelensky's top aide - reboot for Kyiv or costly shake-up?") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_anti-corruption_protests_in_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_anti-corruption_protests_...
  - Muromec 9mo ago
    >That's the same guy who tried to take over that anti-corruption office. He would be controlling it now, if it weren't for the massive country-wide protests about it. I'm not sure that they're doing fine. Well, they won for now, that's what matters.

Didn't that anti-corruption agency end up being corrupt too? Hard to follow all this stuff.

by heurist 9mo ago

Didn't that anti-corruption agency end up being corrupt too? Hard to follow all this stuff.

Nah, they are fine. They ate head of presidents office alive last week. Add: it's also not one anticorruption agency, but the whole bunch of them -- law enforcement one (think of FBI, but investigating corruption in government), special prosecutors office, another agency monitoring assets of anyone close enough to government (including immigration officers on a country level) and their family and a whole separate court with judges vetted by independent panel. It's elections of Doge of Venice level of indirection.

perihelions 9mo ago
> "Nah, they are fine. They ate head of presidents office alive last week." That's the same guy who tried to take over that anti-corruption office. He would be controlling it now, if it weren't for the massive country-wide protests about it. I'm not sure that they're doing fine. Economist, July 2025: > "On July 22nd the Rada, Ukraine’s parliament, passed a bill that would place the country’s two main anti-corruption bodies—NABU, which investigates wrongdoing, and SAPO, which prosecutes it—under the control of the presidency. This was not the work of rogue MPs. It was orchestrated from the top by President Volodymyr Zelensky and his all-powerful chief of staff, Andriy Yermak." https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/07/23/volodymyr-zelensky-has-made-a-strategic-blunder https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/07/23/volodymyr-zelen... ( https://archive.is/kYh4w https://archive.is/kYh4w ) BBC, last week: "...was forced to U-turn after mass demonstrations", https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz0nljm4y74o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz0nljm4y74o ("Andriy Yermak: How Zelensky's right-hand man fell from power" / "Fall of Zelensky's top aide - reboot for Kyiv or costly shake-up?") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_anti-corruption_protests_in_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_anti-corruption_protests_...
- Muromec 9mo ago
  >That's the same guy who tried to take over that anti-corruption office. He would be controlling it now, if it weren't for the massive country-wide protests about it. I'm not sure that they're doing fine. Well, they won for now, that's what matters.