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It's 1AM in San Francisco right now. I don't envy the person having to call Matthew Prince and wake him up for this one. And I feel really bad for the person

It's 1AM in San Francisco right now. I don't envy the person having to call Matthew Prince and wake him up for this one. And I feel really bad for the person that forgot a closing brace in whatever config file did this.

csomar 10mo ago
> And I feel really bad for the person that forgot a closing brace in whatever config file did this. If a closing brace take your whole infra. down, my guess is that we'll see more of this.
artlovecode 10mo ago
Agreed, I feel bad for them. But mostly because cloudflare's workflows are so bad that you're seemingly repeatedly set up for really public failures. Like how does this keep happening without leadership's heads rolling. The culture clearly is not fit for their level of criticality
- esseph 10mo ago
  > The culture clearly is not fit for their level of criticality I don't think anyone's is.
  - everfrustrated 10mo ago
    How often do you hear of Akamai going down and they host a LOT more enterprise/high value sites than Cloudflare. There's a reason Cloudflare has been really struggling to get into the traditional enterprise space and it isn't price.
    - inferiorhuman 10mo ago
      A quick google turned up an Akamai outage in July that took Linode down and two in 2021. At that scale nobody's going to come up smelling like roses. I mostly dealt with Amazon crap at megacorp, but nobody that had to deal with our Akamai stuff had anything kind to say about them as a vendor. At first blush it's getting harder to "defend" use of Cloudflare, but I'll wait until we get some idea of what actually broke. For the time being I'll save my outrage for the AI scrapers that drove everyone into Cloudflare's arms.
      - inemesitaffia 9mo ago
        Was it a CDN or Linode failure?
    - esseph 10mo ago
      The last place I heard of someone deploying anything to Akamai was 15 years ago in FedGov. Akamai was historically only serving enterprise customers. Cloudflare opened up tons of free plans, new services, and basically swallowed much of that market during that time period.
viraptor 10mo ago
> I don't envy the person having to call Matthew Prince They shouldn't need to do that unless they're really disorganised. CEOs are not there for day to day operations.

csomar 10mo ago

> And I feel really bad for the person that forgot a closing brace in whatever config file did this. If a closing brace take your whole infra. down, my guess is that we'll see more of this.

artlovecode 10mo ago

Agreed, I feel bad for them. But mostly because cloudflare's workflows are so bad that you're seemingly repeatedly set up for really public failures. Like how does this keep happening without leadership's heads rolling. The culture clearly is not fit for their level of criticality

esseph 10mo ago
> The culture clearly is not fit for their level of criticality I don't think anyone's is.
- everfrustrated 10mo ago
  How often do you hear of Akamai going down and they host a LOT more enterprise/high value sites than Cloudflare. There's a reason Cloudflare has been really struggling to get into the traditional enterprise space and it isn't price.
  - inferiorhuman 10mo ago
    A quick google turned up an Akamai outage in July that took Linode down and two in 2021. At that scale nobody's going to come up smelling like roses. I mostly dealt with Amazon crap at megacorp, but nobody that had to deal with our Akamai stuff had anything kind to say about them as a vendor. At first blush it's getting harder to "defend" use of Cloudflare, but I'll wait until we get some idea of what actually broke. For the time being I'll save my outrage for the AI scrapers that drove everyone into Cloudflare's arms.
    - inemesitaffia 9mo ago
      Was it a CDN or Linode failure?
  - esseph 10mo ago
    The last place I heard of someone deploying anything to Akamai was 15 years ago in FedGov. Akamai was historically only serving enterprise customers. Cloudflare opened up tons of free plans, new services, and basically swallowed much of that market during that time period.

viraptor 10mo ago

> I don't envy the person having to call Matthew Prince They shouldn't need to do that unless they're really disorganised. CEOs are not there for day to day operations.