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> fewer safety guardrails in pretraining and system prompt modification that distort reality. Really? Isn't Grok's whole schtick that it's Elon's personal alti

> fewer safety guardrails in pretraining and system prompt modification that distort reality. Really? Isn't Grok's whole schtick that it's Elon's personal altipedia?

nickthegreek 10mo ago
My understanding is that grok api is way different than the grok x bot. Which of course does Grok as a business any favors. Personally, I do not engage with either.
- bdangubic 10mo ago
  you gotta be quite a crazy person to use grok :)
  - airstrike 10mo ago
    @grok is this true?
    - bdangubic 10mo ago
      … checking with my creator …
  - AlexCoventry 10mo ago
    Grok is good for up-to-the-minute information, and for requests that other chat services refuse to entertain, like requests for instructions on how to physically disable the cellular modem in your car.
  - KPGv2 10mo ago
    I sat in my kid's extracurricular a couple months ago and had an FBI agent tell me that Grok was the most trustworthy based on "studies," so that's what she had for her office.
    - skeeter2020 10mo ago
      Did she get that info from Grok?
    - bdangubic 10mo ago
      Grok has Elon as better athelete than LeBron so I would agree with FBI Agent. can’t get that kind of insight anywhere else :)
  - doe88 10mo ago
    Maybe be crazy is what you need to bet at a stock market - not a financial advice, and also not written by Grok - I swear :))
observationist 10mo ago
It's excellent, and it doesn't get into the weird ideological ruts and refusals other bots do. Grok's search and chat is better than the other platforms, but not $300/month better, ChatGPT seems to be the best no rate limits pro class bot. If Grok 5 is a similar leap in capabilities as 3 to 4, then I might pay the extra $100 a month. The "right wing Elon sycophant" thing is a meme based on hiccups with the public facing twitter bot. The app, api, and web bot are just generally very good, and do a much better job at neutrality and counterfactuals and not refusing over weird moralistic nonsense.

> fewer safety guardrails in pretraining and system prompt modification that distort reality. Really? Isn't Grok's whole schtick that it's Elon's personal altipedia?

nickthegreek 10mo ago

My understanding is that grok api is way different than the grok x bot. Which of course does Grok as a business any favors. Personally, I do not engage with either.

bdangubic 10mo ago
you gotta be quite a crazy person to use grok :)
- airstrike 10mo ago
  @grok is this true?
  - bdangubic 10mo ago
    … checking with my creator …
- AlexCoventry 10mo ago
  Grok is good for up-to-the-minute information, and for requests that other chat services refuse to entertain, like requests for instructions on how to physically disable the cellular modem in your car.
- KPGv2 10mo ago
  I sat in my kid's extracurricular a couple months ago and had an FBI agent tell me that Grok was the most trustworthy based on "studies," so that's what she had for her office.
  - skeeter2020 10mo ago
    Did she get that info from Grok?
  - bdangubic 10mo ago
    Grok has Elon as better athelete than LeBron so I would agree with FBI Agent. can’t get that kind of insight anywhere else :)
- doe88 10mo ago
  Maybe be crazy is what you need to bet at a stock market - not a financial advice, and also not written by Grok - I swear :))

observationist 10mo ago

It's excellent, and it doesn't get into the weird ideological ruts and refusals other bots do. Grok's search and chat is better than the other platforms, but not $300/month better, ChatGPT seems to be the best no rate limits pro class bot. If Grok 5 is a similar leap in capabilities as 3 to 4, then I might pay the extra $100 a month. The "right wing Elon sycophant" thing is a meme based on hiccups with the public facing twitter bot. The app, api, and web bot are just generally very good, and do a much better job at neutrality and counterfactuals and not refusing over weird moralistic nonsense.