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According to the report, 52% of all open-source AI is used for roleplaying. They attribute it to fewer content filters and higher creativity. I'm pretty sur

by syspec 10mo ago

According to the report, 52% of all open-source AI is used for *roleplaying*. They attribute it to fewer content filters and higher creativity. I'm pretty surprised by that, but I guess that also selects for people who would use openrouter

raincole 10mo ago
If you rely on AI to write most of your code (instead of using it like Stackoverflow), Claude Code/OpenAI Codex subscription are cheaper than buying tokens. So those users are not on openrouter.
- djfergus 10mo ago
  I'm curious what percentage of claude/codex users this is true for - I assumed their business models rely on this not being true for the majority.
  - bakugo 10mo ago
    Both Claude Code and Codex steer you towards the monthly subscription. Last time I tried Codex, I remember several aspects of it being straight up broken if used with an API key instead of a subscription account. The business model is likely built upon the assumption that most people aren't going to max out their limits every day, because if they were, it likely wouldn't be profitable.
    - UltraSane 10mo ago
      I got $250 free Claude Code credit and I was surprised by how hard it was to actually use it all before it expired.
djfergus 10mo ago
Openrouter has an apps tab. If you look at the free, non-coding models, some apps that feature are: janitor.ai, sillytavern, chub.ai. I'd never heard of them but people seem to be burning millions of tokens enjoying them.
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bakugo 10mo ago
> I guess that also selects for people who would use openrouter It definitely does. OpenRouter is pretty popular among roleplayers and creative writers due to having a wide variety of models available, sometimes providing free access to quality models such as DeepSeek, and lacking any sort of rules against generating "adult" content.
IMTDb 10mo ago
Or maybe it’s just strange classification. I see a lot of prompts on the internet looking like “act as a senior xxx expert with over 15 years of industry experience and answer the following: [insert simple question]” I hope those are not classified as “roleplaying” the “roleplay” here is just a trick to get better answer from the model, often in a professional setting that has nothing to do with creative writing of NSFW stuff
- Windchaser 10mo ago
  I strongly bet that this is it.
- susanthenerd 10mo ago
  OpenRouter classifies content by the app that's used to interact with the llm. https://openrouter.ai/docs/app-attribution https://openrouter.ai/docs/app-attribution
  - mike_hearn 10mo ago
    This paper says they classify it by feeding tokens to a Google model.
- sysguest 10mo ago
  "act as a senior xxx expert with over 15 years of industry experience" ... I just don't get why LLMs are affected by this kind of nonsense -- is it due to training rewards?
  - est 10mo ago
    imagine how to prepare for an interview? Act confident lol
  - mondojesus 10mo ago
    The way I think about it, the training data (i.e. the internet) has X% of people asking something like "explain it to me like I'm five years old" and Y% of people framing it like "I'm technical, explain this to me in detail". You use the "act as a senior XXX" when you want to bias the output towards something more detailed.
ceroxylon 10mo ago
That also stuck out for me, I was wondering if it was video games using openrouter for uptime / inference switching, video games would use a lot of tokens generating dialogue for a few programmer's villages.
cess11 10mo ago
Sex- and spambots are likely the most common applications of these things.
lm28469 10mo ago
I'm not surprised at all. The HN crowd think LLMs are mostly used for engineering because they live in a multi layer bubble. Real people in the real world do all kind of shit with LLMs which aren't productivity or even work related.
veunes 10mo ago
I'm not surprised. Roleplay means endless sessions with huge context (character history, world, previous dialogues). On commercial APIs (OpenAI/Anthropic), that long-context costs a fortune. On OpenRouter, many OSS models, especially via providers like DeepInfra or Fireworks, cost pennies or are even free, like some Free-tier models. The RP community is very price-sensitive, so they massively migrate to cheap OSS models via aggregators. It skews the stats but highlights a real niche for cheap inference

According to the report, 52% of all open-source AI is used for *roleplaying*. They attribute it to fewer content filters and higher creativity. I'm pretty sur

by syspec 10mo ago

raincole 10mo ago

If you rely on AI to write most of your code (instead of using it like Stackoverflow), Claude Code/OpenAI Codex subscription are cheaper than buying tokens. So those users are not on openrouter.

djfergus 10mo ago
I'm curious what percentage of claude/codex users this is true for - I assumed their business models rely on this not being true for the majority.
- bakugo 10mo ago
  Both Claude Code and Codex steer you towards the monthly subscription. Last time I tried Codex, I remember several aspects of it being straight up broken if used with an API key instead of a subscription account. The business model is likely built upon the assumption that most people aren't going to max out their limits every day, because if they were, it likely wouldn't be profitable.
  - UltraSane 10mo ago
    I got $250 free Claude Code credit and I was surprised by how hard it was to actually use it all before it expired.

djfergus 10mo ago

Openrouter has an apps tab. If you look at the free, non-coding models, some apps that feature are: janitor.ai, sillytavern, chub.ai. I'd never heard of them but people seem to be burning millions of tokens enjoying them.

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bakugo 10mo ago

> I guess that also selects for people who would use openrouter It definitely does. OpenRouter is pretty popular among roleplayers and creative writers due to having a wide variety of models available, sometimes providing free access to quality models such as DeepSeek, and lacking any sort of rules against generating "adult" content.

IMTDb 10mo ago

Or maybe it’s just strange classification. I see a lot of prompts on the internet looking like “act as a senior xxx expert with over 15 years of industry experience and answer the following: [insert simple question]” I hope those are not classified as “roleplaying” the “roleplay” here is just a trick to get better answer from the model, often in a professional setting that has nothing to do with creative writing of NSFW stuff

Windchaser 10mo ago
I strongly bet that this is it.
susanthenerd 10mo ago
OpenRouter classifies content by the app that's used to interact with the llm. https://openrouter.ai/docs/app-attribution https://openrouter.ai/docs/app-attribution
- mike_hearn 10mo ago
  This paper says they classify it by feeding tokens to a Google model.
sysguest 10mo ago
"act as a senior xxx expert with over 15 years of industry experience" ... I just don't get why LLMs are affected by this kind of nonsense -- is it due to training rewards?
- est 10mo ago
  imagine how to prepare for an interview? Act confident lol
- mondojesus 10mo ago
  The way I think about it, the training data (i.e. the internet) has X% of people asking something like "explain it to me like I'm five years old" and Y% of people framing it like "I'm technical, explain this to me in detail". You use the "act as a senior XXX" when you want to bias the output towards something more detailed.

ceroxylon 10mo ago

That also stuck out for me, I was wondering if it was video games using openrouter for uptime / inference switching, video games would use a lot of tokens generating dialogue for a few programmer's villages.

cess11 10mo ago

Sex- and spambots are likely the most common applications of these things.

lm28469 10mo ago

I'm not surprised at all. The HN crowd think LLMs are mostly used for engineering because they live in a multi layer bubble. Real people in the real world do all kind of shit with LLMs which aren't productivity or even work related.

veunes 10mo ago

I'm not surprised. Roleplay means endless sessions with huge context (character history, world, previous dialogues). On commercial APIs (OpenAI/Anthropic), that long-context costs a fortune. On OpenRouter, many OSS models, especially via providers like DeepInfra or Fireworks, cost pennies or are even free, like some Free-tier models. The RP community is very price-sensitive, so they massively migrate to cheap OSS models via aggregators. It skews the stats but highlights a real niche for cheap inference