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I congratulate you to that decision. Twitter is really a breeding ground for racism and hate. Nobody should be on that platform.

by 0xcb0 10mo ago

GaryBluto 10mo ago
Why does everybody I see complaining about modern Twitter say the exact phrase "Nobody should be on that platform."? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your point, just curious if there was some manifesto going around or if everybody suddenly started using the same phrase. Is it just me or have people started using the same phrases more often and faster than before? Reminds me of when everybody started saying "God forbid" a few months ago.
- davidw 10mo ago
  I don't know about the phrase, but I share the sentiment. The owner is a racist promoting racist things. It's not a 'public square' because he controls the algorithm, so it'll never be a 'fair fight' for those who disagree with him.
  - jsheard 10mo ago
    Paying users are also explicitly given priority in the reply section, which naturally hands a megaphone to the type of user that is more willing to give money to Elon Musk and wear the "I gave money to Elon Musk" badge.
- GoblinSlayer 10mo ago
  It's a straightforward solution to the monopoly problem.
- HtmlProgrammer 10mo ago
  We want X to exist to contain these people. The same situation applies to League of Legends and their wonderfully toxic player base
- jedimastert 10mo ago
  Can you find me some notable examples?
  - GaryBluto 10mo ago
    It's mostly been on comments on various Reddit posts over the last few months. I unfortunately don't have any examples saved. I'm not accusing anybody of anything, just personally curious and remarking on a pattern I've perceived and was wondering if it was just a "me" thing.
- medler 10mo ago
  I did some searches for “nobody should be on that platform” and found: - one hit on a Lana del Rey message board - one bluesky post from 8 months ago with no likes, reposts, or replies. If you widen the search to “should be on that platform” then you get more hits, but many are references to Instagram, Discord, Snapchat, TikTok etc. It seems that people are reaching for a noun that can refer to these social media properties that are not just “sites” and not just “apps.” It would appear that ”platform” is the word we’ve landed on.
  - GaryBluto 10mo ago
    I was more specifically referring to Reddit comments and the like, which I don't think are indexed by search engines.
- jajuuka 10mo ago
  Like pareidolia humans are great at seeing patterns that don't exist. Nobody should on that platform is an extremely common phrase. So you'll probably hear it more than once. However that doesn't mean there is a conspiracy.
  - GaryBluto 10mo ago
    It's quite possible it isn't a pattern but I'd like to add I never implied (or meant to imply) a conspiracy.
- drcongo 10mo ago
  Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.
- normalaccess 10mo ago
  The groupthink is real, and it's coming for a skull near you. But in all seriousness I think it's a mix of bots on the dead internet leading the monkey see monkey do paradigm. If you see 80 out of 100 people doing a thing then you get swept up in the flood. Even if 50 of those 80 are bots.
user34283 10mo ago
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- KerrAvon 10mo ago
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- JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
  > I suspect a lot of it is politically motivated, coming from liberals The liberal-conservative political dichotomy was dying before Trump and is decidedly non-descriptive now.
  - ap99 10mo ago
    What has replaced it?
    - JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
      The usual hodgepodge of policy and constituent packages that evolve election to election, pasted onto semi-tribal partisan affiliations. Politics (in democracies) is rarely ideologically coherent because the data pull the model, not vice versa. Like, we can describe the illiberal wings of the right and left, MAGA and academic progressivism, respectively, and it will get readership in the New Yorker and Atlantic, but it’s not going to tell you much about who’s in power and why. More specifically, complaining about “liberals who typically hate Musk” misses that most of Musk’s antagonism in the last 1 year has come from a different cohort than that which has soured on him since he bought Twitter which is again quite different from the crowd that never liked him at all. There is no “typical” Musk hater, even if we just focus on those who vote blue.
      - thrance 10mo ago
        Putting "MAGA" and "academic progressivism" on equal footings is pure bothsideism. What do you mean by "illiberal" exactly, and why would that apply to progressives?
pinkhairew 10mo ago
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PixelForg 10mo ago
Really depends on your feed, I first muted Elon, and only follow artists, so that's all my feed is, no hate or any racism.
- pavlov 10mo ago
  But you had to mute the owner and sole decision maker of the platform to get that result. How long will he allow the peasants to mute or block him?
  - TSiege 10mo ago
    You literally can't block people anymore on X https://www.cnet.com/tech/blocking-on-xtwitter-doesnt-work-anymore-heres-how-to-lock-down-your-posts/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/blocking-on-xtwitter-doesnt-work-a...
    - tb_technical 9mo ago
      From the article you posted, blocking still stops people from communicating with you. The only difference with how it is now is they can still view your posts. I don't have a dog in this fight (don't have Twitter) but this seems like a good feature. On reddit I've been blocked and then called a Nazi/reprehensible person/nonhuman scum. When blocked, you can't see what people say about you. I would like to report the comments for harassment, but I can't. Blocking should stop someone from being able to communicate with you - but it shouldn't be a shield against reporting harassment.
- FuriouslyAdrift 10mo ago
  I made and follow my own "lists" and that blocks just about anything (including most ads). Also, having just under 10,000 block and mute words helps a bit.
  - tbrownaw 10mo ago
    > blocks just about anything (including most ads). Do you not run uBlock Origin for some reason? Is the modern web even usable living like that?
stronglikedan 10mo ago
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- debugnik 10mo ago
  To be fair, that's what it shows by default. I recently created an account just for a short-term purpose, after years of not using it, and the starting algorithmic TL was just right-wing rage-bait about either my country or the US; nothing else. I chose to experiment, and it took days of active curation and follows for the algorithmic TL to stop trying and just show me game/anime stuff for example. I can see people which open an account without a specific purpose just letting themselves fall into the first rabbit hole Twitter shows them.
- TSiege 10mo ago
  it is naive to think that twitter/x is a neutral platform when the owner of the site created a bot that called itself "mecha hitler". do you really think he isn't affecting everyone's feed as well?
FuriouslyAdrift 10mo ago
That's social media in general
adamwong246 10mo ago
It's not the content- it's the ownership. I don't want to give another dime to Mush and Zuckerberg.
stiltzkin 10mo ago
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tb_technical 9mo ago
Many artists (and normal people) publish their works there: from anime girls to short story updates on royal road.

I congratulate you to that decision. Twitter is really a breeding ground for racism and hate. Nobody should be on that platform.

by 0xcb0 10mo ago

I congratulate you to that decision. Twitter is really a breeding ground for racism and hate. Nobody should be on that platform.

GaryBluto 10mo ago

Why does everybody I see complaining about modern Twitter say the exact phrase "Nobody should be on that platform."? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your point, just curious if there was some manifesto going around or if everybody suddenly started using the same phrase. Is it just me or have people started using the same phrases more often and faster than before? Reminds me of when everybody started saying "God forbid" a few months ago.

davidw 10mo ago
I don't know about the phrase, but I share the sentiment. The owner is a racist promoting racist things. It's not a 'public square' because he controls the algorithm, so it'll never be a 'fair fight' for those who disagree with him.
- jsheard 10mo ago
  Paying users are also explicitly given priority in the reply section, which naturally hands a megaphone to the type of user that is more willing to give money to Elon Musk and wear the "I gave money to Elon Musk" badge.
GoblinSlayer 10mo ago
It's a straightforward solution to the monopoly problem.
HtmlProgrammer 10mo ago
We want X to exist to contain these people. The same situation applies to League of Legends and their wonderfully toxic player base
jedimastert 10mo ago
Can you find me some notable examples?
- GaryBluto 10mo ago
  It's mostly been on comments on various Reddit posts over the last few months. I unfortunately don't have any examples saved. I'm not accusing anybody of anything, just personally curious and remarking on a pattern I've perceived and was wondering if it was just a "me" thing.
medler 10mo ago
I did some searches for “nobody should be on that platform” and found: - one hit on a Lana del Rey message board - one bluesky post from 8 months ago with no likes, reposts, or replies. If you widen the search to “should be on that platform” then you get more hits, but many are references to Instagram, Discord, Snapchat, TikTok etc. It seems that people are reaching for a noun that can refer to these social media properties that are not just “sites” and not just “apps.” It would appear that ”platform” is the word we’ve landed on.
- GaryBluto 10mo ago
  I was more specifically referring to Reddit comments and the like, which I don't think are indexed by search engines.
jajuuka 10mo ago
Like pareidolia humans are great at seeing patterns that don't exist. Nobody should on that platform is an extremely common phrase. So you'll probably hear it more than once. However that doesn't mean there is a conspiracy.
- GaryBluto 10mo ago
  It's quite possible it isn't a pattern but I'd like to add I never implied (or meant to imply) a conspiracy.
drcongo 10mo ago
Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.
normalaccess 10mo ago
The groupthink is real, and it's coming for a skull near you. But in all seriousness I think it's a mix of bots on the dead internet leading the monkey see monkey do paradigm. If you see 80 out of 100 people doing a thing then you get swept up in the flood. Even if 50 of those 80 are bots.

user34283 10mo ago

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KerrAvon 10mo ago
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JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
> I suspect a lot of it is politically motivated, coming from liberals The liberal-conservative political dichotomy was dying before Trump and is decidedly non-descriptive now.
- ap99 10mo ago
  What has replaced it?
  - JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
    The usual hodgepodge of policy and constituent packages that evolve election to election, pasted onto semi-tribal partisan affiliations. Politics (in democracies) is rarely ideologically coherent because the data pull the model, not vice versa. Like, we can describe the illiberal wings of the right and left, MAGA and academic progressivism, respectively, and it will get readership in the New Yorker and Atlantic, but it’s not going to tell you much about who’s in power and why. More specifically, complaining about “liberals who typically hate Musk” misses that most of Musk’s antagonism in the last 1 year has come from a different cohort than that which has soured on him since he bought Twitter which is again quite different from the crowd that never liked him at all. There is no “typical” Musk hater, even if we just focus on those who vote blue.
    - thrance 10mo ago
      Putting "MAGA" and "academic progressivism" on equal footings is pure bothsideism. What do you mean by "illiberal" exactly, and why would that apply to progressives?

pinkhairew 10mo ago

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PixelForg 10mo ago

Really depends on your feed, I first muted Elon, and only follow artists, so that's all my feed is, no hate or any racism.

pavlov 10mo ago
But you had to mute the owner and sole decision maker of the platform to get that result. How long will he allow the peasants to mute or block him?
- TSiege 10mo ago
  You literally can't block people anymore on X https://www.cnet.com/tech/blocking-on-xtwitter-doesnt-work-anymore-heres-how-to-lock-down-your-posts/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/blocking-on-xtwitter-doesnt-work-a...
  - tb_technical 9mo ago
    From the article you posted, blocking still stops people from communicating with you. The only difference with how it is now is they can still view your posts. I don't have a dog in this fight (don't have Twitter) but this seems like a good feature. On reddit I've been blocked and then called a Nazi/reprehensible person/nonhuman scum. When blocked, you can't see what people say about you. I would like to report the comments for harassment, but I can't. Blocking should stop someone from being able to communicate with you - but it shouldn't be a shield against reporting harassment.
FuriouslyAdrift 10mo ago
I made and follow my own "lists" and that blocks just about anything (including most ads). Also, having just under 10,000 block and mute words helps a bit.
- tbrownaw 10mo ago
  > blocks just about anything (including most ads). Do you not run uBlock Origin for some reason? Is the modern web even usable living like that?

stronglikedan 10mo ago

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debugnik 10mo ago
To be fair, that's what it shows by default. I recently created an account just for a short-term purpose, after years of not using it, and the starting algorithmic TL was just right-wing rage-bait about either my country or the US; nothing else. I chose to experiment, and it took days of active curation and follows for the algorithmic TL to stop trying and just show me game/anime stuff for example. I can see people which open an account without a specific purpose just letting themselves fall into the first rabbit hole Twitter shows them.
TSiege 10mo ago
it is naive to think that twitter/x is a neutral platform when the owner of the site created a bot that called itself "mecha hitler". do you really think he isn't affecting everyone's feed as well?

FuriouslyAdrift 10mo ago

That's social media in general

adamwong246 10mo ago

It's not the content- it's the ownership. I don't want to give another dime to Mush and Zuckerberg.

stiltzkin 10mo ago

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tb_technical 9mo ago

Many artists (and normal people) publish their works there: from anime girls to short story updates on royal road.