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The irony is I belive the JavaScript creator wtnted to latch to Java's popularity to called it JavaScript and now both Java and JavaScript are owned by Oracle a

by suyash 10mo ago

The irony is I belive the JavaScript creator wtnted to latch to Java's popularity to called it JavaScript and now both Java and JavaScript are owned by Oracle and they want the name but not want to change is to ECMAScript, it's real official name.

jemmyw 10mo ago
Well the creator wanted to call it livescript. The creating company (Netscape) wanted the Java association.
embedding-shape 10mo ago
> and now both Java and JavaScript are owned by "Now" makes it sound like this is a recent acquisition of the JavaScript trademark. Oracle obtained it in 2009 as a result of the Sun purchase and if I remember correctly, Sun initially was issued the trademark back in the 90s sometimes.
- brabel 10mo ago
  You should consider reading the article.
  - embedding-shape 10mo ago
    You should consider including whatever point you are trying to make in the comment itself, instead of just a swipe without any details.
    - brabel 10mo ago
      > "Now" makes it sound like this is a recent acquisition of the JavaScript trademark. Oracle obtained it in 2009 as a result of the Sun purchase and if I remember correctly, Sun initially was issued the trademark back in the 90s sometimes. They explained that in detail in the article. You don't need to remember correctly, you need to read the article. People who comment like you without doing the bare minimum, i.e. read what they're commenting on, should stop and think, what do you think you're contributing by doing that??
- iberator 10mo ago
  Well for the majority of us here, Sun acquisition by Oracle was just few years ago. It was a canon event and we still think about it hehe
szundi 10mo ago
Exactly, I remember how it was renamed just before "launch" to JavaScript from something else I don't remember
ndiddy 10mo ago
If you read the original JavaScript press release ( https://web.archive.org/web/20020808041248/http://wp.netscape.com/newsref/pr/newsrelease67.html https://web.archive.org/web/20020808041248/http://wp.netscap... ), it's mainly intended as a language to write glue code so Java applets (where the real application logic would go) can interact with a webpage: > With JavaScript, an HTML page might contain an intelligent form that performs loan payment or currency exchange calculations right on the client in response to user input. A multimedia weather forecast applet written in Java can be scripted by JavaScript to display appropriate images and sounds based on the current weather readings in a region. A server-side JavaScript script might pull data out of a relational database and format it in HTML on the fly. A page might contain JavaScript scripts that run on both the client and the server. On the server, the scripts might dynamically compose and format HTML content based on user preferences stored in a relational database, and on the client, the scripts would glue together an assortment of Java applets and HTML form elements into a live interactive user interface for specifying a net-wide search for information. > "Programmers have been overwhelmingly enthusiastic about Java because it was designed from the ground up for the Internet. JavaScript is a natural fit, since it's also designed for the Internet and Unicode-based worldwide use," said Bill Joy, co-founder and vice president of research at Sun. "JavaScript will be the most effective method to connect HTML-based content to Java applets." This was all actually implemented. JavaScript functions could call Java applet methods and vice versa (see https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/deploy/javafx_javascript.html https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/deplo... ). Of course over time everyone abandoned applets because of all the security problems, and JavaScript became a good enough language to write application logic directly in it. Still, there's more meaning behind the name than it just being a cynical marketing move.
- cubefox 10mo ago
  > Of course over time everyone abandoned applets because of all the security problems, Haha, or because it froze the whole browser for a few seconds upon loading. Unlike Macromedia Flash by the way.
  - phantasmish 10mo ago

by suyash 10mo ago

jemmyw 10mo ago

Well the creator wanted to call it livescript. The creating company (Netscape) wanted the Java association.

embedding-shape 10mo ago

> and now both Java and JavaScript are owned by "Now" makes it sound like this is a recent acquisition of the JavaScript trademark. Oracle obtained it in 2009 as a result of the Sun purchase and if I remember correctly, Sun initially was issued the trademark back in the 90s sometimes.

brabel 10mo ago
You should consider reading the article.
- embedding-shape 10mo ago
  You should consider including whatever point you are trying to make in the comment itself, instead of just a swipe without any details.
  - brabel 10mo ago
    > "Now" makes it sound like this is a recent acquisition of the JavaScript trademark. Oracle obtained it in 2009 as a result of the Sun purchase and if I remember correctly, Sun initially was issued the trademark back in the 90s sometimes. They explained that in detail in the article. You don't need to remember correctly, you need to read the article. People who comment like you without doing the bare minimum, i.e. read what they're commenting on, should stop and think, what do you think you're contributing by doing that??
iberator 10mo ago
Well for the majority of us here, Sun acquisition by Oracle was just few years ago. It was a canon event and we still think about it hehe

szundi 10mo ago

Exactly, I remember how it was renamed just before "launch" to JavaScript from something else I don't remember

ndiddy 10mo ago

If you read the original JavaScript press release ( https://web.archive.org/web/20020808041248/http://wp.netscape.com/newsref/pr/newsrelease67.html https://web.archive.org/web/20020808041248/http://wp.netscap... ), it's mainly intended as a language to write glue code so Java applets (where the real application logic would go) can interact with a webpage: > With JavaScript, an HTML page might contain an intelligent form that performs loan payment or currency exchange calculations right on the client in response to user input. A multimedia weather forecast applet written in Java can be scripted by JavaScript to display appropriate images and sounds based on the current weather readings in a region. A server-side JavaScript script might pull data out of a relational database and format it in HTML on the fly. A page might contain JavaScript scripts that run on both the client and the server. On the server, the scripts might dynamically compose and format HTML content based on user preferences stored in a relational database, and on the client, the scripts would glue together an assortment of Java applets and HTML form elements into a live interactive user interface for specifying a net-wide search for information. > "Programmers have been overwhelmingly enthusiastic about Java because it was designed from the ground up for the Internet. JavaScript is a natural fit, since it's also designed for the Internet and Unicode-based worldwide use," said Bill Joy, co-founder and vice president of research at Sun. "JavaScript will be the most effective method to connect HTML-based content to Java applets." This was all actually implemented. JavaScript functions could call Java applet methods and vice versa (see https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/deploy/javafx_javascript.html https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/deplo... ). Of course over time everyone abandoned applets because of all the security problems, and JavaScript became a good enough language to write application logic directly in it. Still, there's more meaning behind the name than it just being a cynical marketing move.

cubefox 10mo ago
> Of course over time everyone abandoned applets because of all the security problems, Haha, or because it froze the whole browser for a few seconds upon loading. Unlike Macromedia Flash by the way.
- phantasmish 10mo ago