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for anyone with children, dont waste their time with traditional school, that path is stone dead and is leading nowhere but the abyss of the permanent underclas

for anyone with children, dont waste their time with traditional school, that path is stone dead and is leading nowhere but the abyss of the permanent underclass apologise for inflicting this era on them and teach them to be entrepreneurial, teach them how to build, teach them rust on the backend, teach them postgres, teach them about assets maintaining value while money loses its tell them to never under any circumstances take on a mortgage, especially not the 50 year variety. tell them to stay at home for as long as possible and save as much as possible and put it into assets: gold, silver, bitcoin, monero they must escape the permanent underclass, nothing else matters

koakuma-chan 10mo ago
Just don't have children. All this churn (learning whatever) isn't worth it (for them).
- NoMoreNicksLeft 10mo ago
  >Just don't have children. Despite everything, I like it that humanity exists. I want humanity to continue to exist. I reject any notion or attitude that would, taken to its logical conclusion, result in the extinction of humanity. And, even more so, that would result in the extinction of my family and lineage. For your sake, I hope that this is just edgy horseshit that you will soon grow out of.
  - koakuma-chan 10mo ago
    Let's see if I will grow out of it. I am curios as well. I currently think the opposite—that humanity is inherently flawed, and that the vast majority of humans will always live miserably.
  - venturecruelty 10mo ago
    Friendly reminder that, on a planet of eight billion (and climbing) people, many of whom live in places with too much heat and not enough food and water, not everyone has to have children. And that's okay.
    - NoMoreNicksLeft 10mo ago
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      - silverquiet 10mo ago
        The math has a few problems then, because it seems rather difficult for me to have .1 child. Actually, it's impossible for me to have any children because I am a single man and it is not biologically possible.
        NoMoreNicksLeft 10mo ago
        >it seems rather difficult for me to have .1 child. Hence, the "on average". For any 10 couples, they should have 21 children. If some have fewer, the rest have to have more. >it's impossible for me to have any children because I am a single man Sounds like a "you" problem.
        silverquiet 10mo ago
        > Hence, the "on average". For any 10 couples, they should have 21 children. If some have fewer, the rest have to have more. This would seem to agree with "not everyone has to have children" - mathematically speaking you can quite simply put a couple zeros into the equation and still arrive at 2.1 > Sounds like a "you" problem. I have no problem with the situation at all as I have never in my life had an interest in having children. I'm not sure I even see the changes in birthrate as a problem; people can adapt to demographic changes. But if it is a problem, then it must be some sort of systemic one and I doubt the answer is to try and apply pressure to individuals to have children by telling them to think of the economy or that it is some sort of societal obligation.
        NoMoreNicksLeft 10mo ago
        >This would seem to agree with "not everyone has to have children" - No, but there are some fools who might conclude that just one person has to have millions of children. >I have no problem with the situation at all as I have never Oh, you have a problem. You just can't see it yet. While younger, your problem is that you will shoulder an ever-increasing burden as fewer younger people support many more of the elderly in generations past, until you yourself are then elderly and the few young people simply can't support you at all. A stagnating economy, defense insecurities to make the 20th century look tame, it all goes to shit. >and I doubt the answer is to try and apply pressure to individuals to have children Yet you're apparently happy to see people try to pressure the hundreds reading the comments here to not have children.
- ch4s3 10mo ago
  This is a weird take. There are plenty of ways to build a meaningful life that don't involve writing code or slinging emails and powerpoints for a living. The guy I call to do plumbing work has several kids and does fine for himself.
  - koakuma-chan 10mo ago
    Chances are he smokes or gets drunk or beats his wife or any combination thereof, or other similar activities. This can be said about any person who works as a plumber, construction worker, or similar, their whole life. And I am not blaming them, this appears to be the sad reality and the nature of our society.
    - _carbyau_ 10mo ago
      Uh, really no. That is some hard stereotyping being generalised on a platform with worldwide reach. You may wish to rethink what led you to that statement. Although, with that statement and others from you recently I'm guessing you have "lost your fucks and don't have any more to give" IE burnt out on it all. Good luck, I hope you get to a place where you can not rely rely on shortcuts like stereotypes so much and have more energy to give to yourself and your life.
      - koakuma-chan 10mo ago
        Yes, stereotyping. And? I said "chances are." What led me to that statement is my personal experience. Every time I go outside, I can smell somebody smoking weed on their porch. And it's not like it's the same person or the same porch. I can travel multiple kilometers and encounter multiple people doing that. So much for trying to get fresh air. Even without looking at any statistics, I am convinced that a very high percentage of people has some kind of addiction—drugs, alcohol, porn, gambling, god knows what. I had so many people proudly tell me how much they love alcohol, with no shame whatsoever. It's the same everywhere I have been.
        ch4s3 10mo ago
samdoesnothing 10mo ago
Crazy that you're getting downvoted. You're right about everything. Well, maybe about rust on the backend... The world is fundamentally different than it was 50 years ago and the same boomer platitudes no longer make sense. We are going to suffer a global economic collapse in the near future (conveniently when the generations to blame are retired or dead) and it's going to reshape our world and what labor looks like. I just hope that my generation will be kinder to future generations than the last.

koakuma-chan 10mo ago

Just don't have children. All this churn (learning whatever) isn't worth it (for them).

NoMoreNicksLeft 10mo ago
>Just don't have children. Despite everything, I like it that humanity exists. I want humanity to continue to exist. I reject any notion or attitude that would, taken to its logical conclusion, result in the extinction of humanity. And, even more so, that would result in the extinction of my family and lineage. For your sake, I hope that this is just edgy horseshit that you will soon grow out of.
- koakuma-chan 10mo ago
  Let's see if I will grow out of it. I am curios as well. I currently think the opposite—that humanity is inherently flawed, and that the vast majority of humans will always live miserably.
- venturecruelty 10mo ago
  Friendly reminder that, on a planet of eight billion (and climbing) people, many of whom live in places with too much heat and not enough food and water, not everyone has to have children. And that's okay.
  - NoMoreNicksLeft 10mo ago
    [flagged]
    - silverquiet 10mo ago
      The math has a few problems then, because it seems rather difficult for me to have .1 child. Actually, it's impossible for me to have any children because I am a single man and it is not biologically possible.
      - NoMoreNicksLeft 10mo ago
        >it seems rather difficult for me to have .1 child. Hence, the "on average". For any 10 couples, they should have 21 children. If some have fewer, the rest have to have more. >it's impossible for me to have any children because I am a single man Sounds like a "you" problem.
        silverquiet 10mo ago
        > Hence, the "on average". For any 10 couples, they should have 21 children. If some have fewer, the rest have to have more. This would seem to agree with "not everyone has to have children" - mathematically speaking you can quite simply put a couple zeros into the equation and still arrive at 2.1 > Sounds like a "you" problem. I have no problem with the situation at all as I have never in my life had an interest in having children. I'm not sure I even see the changes in birthrate as a problem; people can adapt to demographic changes. But if it is a problem, then it must be some sort of systemic one and I doubt the answer is to try and apply pressure to individuals to have children by telling them to think of the economy or that it is some sort of societal obligation.
        NoMoreNicksLeft 10mo ago
        >This would seem to agree with "not everyone has to have children" - No, but there are some fools who might conclude that just one person has to have millions of children. >I have no problem with the situation at all as I have never Oh, you have a problem. You just can't see it yet. While younger, your problem is that you will shoulder an ever-increasing burden as fewer younger people support many more of the elderly in generations past, until you yourself are then elderly and the few young people simply can't support you at all. A stagnating economy, defense insecurities to make the 20th century look tame, it all goes to shit. >and I doubt the answer is to try and apply pressure to individuals to have children Yet you're apparently happy to see people try to pressure the hundreds reading the comments here to not have children.
ch4s3 10mo ago
This is a weird take. There are plenty of ways to build a meaningful life that don't involve writing code or slinging emails and powerpoints for a living. The guy I call to do plumbing work has several kids and does fine for himself.
- koakuma-chan 10mo ago
  Chances are he smokes or gets drunk or beats his wife or any combination thereof, or other similar activities. This can be said about any person who works as a plumber, construction worker, or similar, their whole life. And I am not blaming them, this appears to be the sad reality and the nature of our society.
  - _carbyau_ 10mo ago
    Uh, really no. That is some hard stereotyping being generalised on a platform with worldwide reach. You may wish to rethink what led you to that statement. Although, with that statement and others from you recently I'm guessing you have "lost your fucks and don't have any more to give" IE burnt out on it all. Good luck, I hope you get to a place where you can not rely rely on shortcuts like stereotypes so much and have more energy to give to yourself and your life.
    - koakuma-chan 10mo ago
      Yes, stereotyping. And? I said "chances are." What led me to that statement is my personal experience. Every time I go outside, I can smell somebody smoking weed on their porch. And it's not like it's the same person or the same porch. I can travel multiple kilometers and encounter multiple people doing that. So much for trying to get fresh air. Even without looking at any statistics, I am convinced that a very high percentage of people has some kind of addiction—drugs, alcohol, porn, gambling, god knows what. I had so many people proudly tell me how much they love alcohol, with no shame whatsoever. It's the same everywhere I have been.
      - ch4s3 10mo ago

samdoesnothing 10mo ago

Crazy that you're getting downvoted. You're right about everything. Well, maybe about rust on the backend... The world is fundamentally different than it was 50 years ago and the same boomer platitudes no longer make sense. We are going to suffer a global economic collapse in the near future (conveniently when the generations to blame are retired or dead) and it's going to reshape our world and what labor looks like. I just hope that my generation will be kinder to future generations than the last.