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It was because of QuarkXPress and Photoshop. In the same way WordPerfect and Lotus 1-2-3 were dominant for business computers. Wish someone would try to create

by cyrc 10mo ago

It was because of QuarkXPress and Photoshop. In the same way WordPerfect and Lotus 1-2-3 were dominant for business computers. Wish someone would try to create native MacOS classic on x86 hardware. There are so many Unix or Linux ABI compatible kernels like the recent Moss written in rust.

anthk 10mo ago
Ardi Executor. There's a recent fork at GitHub. You can run m68k binaries seamlessly. You don't need propietary MacOS parts, just the software. But if you are some software preserver, having a libre option to run legacy media it's always good for historical reasons. I am a daily libre software user but I emulate ancient machines with propietary stuff just for curiosity. As it not a personal computing device I find it fine. It's just an historical toy and not my computing device. And, well, if you want to create libre engines for old Mac games (ScummVM, SDL ports...), for sure you need to at least emulate the old OSes and run the propietary game in order to compare the output and correctness. Also, it already exists "Mac" for x86. It was Rhapsody DR2 and it could run Classic Mac software and NeXT one too. It was like a blend of these two. OSX it's like NeXT Step concept 2.0, with few traces of Mac Classic. Qemu will run it fine. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/hands-on-with-1998s-rhapsody-dr2 https://lunduke.substack.com/p/hands-on-with-1998s-rhapsody-...
- cyrc 10mo ago
  It would be great if somebody tried to create an opensource version of Rhapsody DR2 that ran on X86 baremetal. Would not even need to be binary compatible. Source compatible API would be enough. Rhapsody DR2 is more like Classic Mac than any current MacOS.
  - anthk 10mo ago
    Source compatible API it's GNUStep since the 90's. At least the NeXTStep part; not the Mac GUI (Carbon?) one.
- WillAdams 10mo ago
  I will have to see if this is yet able to run Macromedia Freehand/MX --- if it is, I no longer need to have a Windows machine for that.... Now, if I can just get a nice portable with: - largish OLED - current gen Wacom EMR digitizer support - decent battery life running Linux, I can get off the Windows update treadmill....
- jjuran 10mo ago
  Rhapsody DR2 is not a solution for classic Mac OS on x86. Lunduke writes: "Unfortunately [the Blue Box] was only available on PowerPC versions of Rhapsody" Another option is Advanced Mac Substitute. It doesn't run everything, but what it does run it runs really well. One of my goals is that you can use a 68K Mac application (e.g. MacPaint) as part of your personal computing workflow, if you wish. https://www.v68k.org/ams/ https://www.v68k.org/ams/
  - anthk 10mo ago
    Adding Executor does that for free as in freedom. Edit, ah, both are similar.
hmstx 10mo ago
> Wish someone would try to create native MacOS classic on x86 hardware. Apple worked on this themselves - and then they canned it. https://lowendmac.com/2014/star-trek-apples-first-mac-os-on-intel-project/ https://lowendmac.com/2014/star-trek-apples-first-mac-os-on-...

by cyrc 10mo ago

anthk 10mo ago

Ardi Executor. There's a recent fork at GitHub. You can run m68k binaries seamlessly. You don't need propietary MacOS parts, just the software. But if you are some software preserver, having a libre option to run legacy media it's always good for historical reasons. I am a daily libre software user but I emulate ancient machines with propietary stuff just for curiosity. As it not a personal computing device I find it fine. It's just an historical toy and not my computing device. And, well, if you want to create libre engines for old Mac games (ScummVM, SDL ports...), for sure you need to at least emulate the old OSes and run the propietary game in order to compare the output and correctness. Also, it already exists "Mac" for x86. It was Rhapsody DR2 and it could run Classic Mac software and NeXT one too. It was like a blend of these two. OSX it's like NeXT Step concept 2.0, with few traces of Mac Classic. Qemu will run it fine. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/hands-on-with-1998s-rhapsody-dr2 https://lunduke.substack.com/p/hands-on-with-1998s-rhapsody-...

cyrc 10mo ago
It would be great if somebody tried to create an opensource version of Rhapsody DR2 that ran on X86 baremetal. Would not even need to be binary compatible. Source compatible API would be enough. Rhapsody DR2 is more like Classic Mac than any current MacOS.
- anthk 10mo ago
  Source compatible API it's GNUStep since the 90's. At least the NeXTStep part; not the Mac GUI (Carbon?) one.
WillAdams 10mo ago
I will have to see if this is yet able to run Macromedia Freehand/MX --- if it is, I no longer need to have a Windows machine for that.... Now, if I can just get a nice portable with: - largish OLED - current gen Wacom EMR digitizer support - decent battery life running Linux, I can get off the Windows update treadmill....
jjuran 10mo ago
Rhapsody DR2 is not a solution for classic Mac OS on x86. Lunduke writes: "Unfortunately [the Blue Box] was only available on PowerPC versions of Rhapsody" Another option is Advanced Mac Substitute. It doesn't run everything, but what it does run it runs really well. One of my goals is that you can use a 68K Mac application (e.g. MacPaint) as part of your personal computing workflow, if you wish. https://www.v68k.org/ams/ https://www.v68k.org/ams/
- anthk 10mo ago
  Adding Executor does that for free as in freedom. Edit, ah, both are similar.

hmstx 10mo ago

> Wish someone would try to create native MacOS classic on x86 hardware. Apple worked on this themselves - and then they canned it. https://lowendmac.com/2014/star-trek-apples-first-mac-os-on-intel-project/ https://lowendmac.com/2014/star-trek-apples-first-mac-os-on-...