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Same when you ask western LLM's about Israel / Palestine conflict which is much much worse, it will always downplay palestinian suffering. But yeah both are ve

Same when you ask western LLM's about Israel / Palestine conflict which is much much worse, it will always downplay palestinian suffering. But yeah both are very bad.

PunchyHamster 10mo ago
I don't think that in particular is the LLM manufacturer downplaying that but just the amount of sources LLM was trained on does. vs. in case of chinese it's more targeted censoring.
leobg 10mo ago
How would you know? What world knowledge do you have access to that they do not?
- MyFirstSass 10mo ago
  I follow experts from doctors without borders, red cross, ICC, amnesty and lots of other top NGO's who actually visit the place - and they all more or less call this an ethnic cleansing, the most horrific thing seen, and it's a genocide actively perpetrated by the the west, it's beyond disturbing. There's talks of upwards of 500 thousand deaths now, half a million, most of them civilians, women and children. It's not in any way controversial anymore and the info is out there and has been for a long time. That people like you call this into question, i'm truly shocked at the heartlessness. It's a slaughterhouse, just like the original holocaust and industrial in its scale and efficiency which makes it that more frightening.
  - amypetrik8 10mo ago
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- bdangubic 10mo ago
  eyes plus access to non-US media
embedding-shape 10mo ago
Which "Western LLMs" are you thinking about, specifically? Just tried with GPT-OSS-120b MXFP4 loaded via vLLM, and seemed to have handled it fine, no downplaying of widespread destruction of Gaza with civilian causalities back in 2009: https://gist.github.com/embedding-shapes/78719664df5d299938c62de97d089d8c https://gist.github.com/embedding-shapes/78719664df5d299938c... Maybe I'm not asking the question the right way?
subscribed 10mo ago
I tried several LLMs about western crimes, massacres or war crimes, actually to compare the suspected censorship, but I failed to find one example. Which LLMs, then? I'd be glad to hear about similarly egregious censorship.

Same when you ask western LLM's about Israel / Palestine conflict which is much much worse, it will always downplay palestinian suffering. But yeah both are very bad.

PunchyHamster 10mo ago

I don't think that in particular is the LLM manufacturer downplaying that but just the amount of sources LLM was trained on does. vs. in case of chinese it's more targeted censoring.

leobg 10mo ago

How would you know? What world knowledge do you have access to that they do not?

MyFirstSass 10mo ago
I follow experts from doctors without borders, red cross, ICC, amnesty and lots of other top NGO's who actually visit the place - and they all more or less call this an ethnic cleansing, the most horrific thing seen, and it's a genocide actively perpetrated by the the west, it's beyond disturbing. There's talks of upwards of 500 thousand deaths now, half a million, most of them civilians, women and children. It's not in any way controversial anymore and the info is out there and has been for a long time. That people like you call this into question, i'm truly shocked at the heartlessness. It's a slaughterhouse, just like the original holocaust and industrial in its scale and efficiency which makes it that more frightening.
- amypetrik8 10mo ago
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bdangubic 10mo ago
eyes plus access to non-US media

embedding-shape 10mo ago

Which "Western LLMs" are you thinking about, specifically? Just tried with GPT-OSS-120b MXFP4 loaded via vLLM, and seemed to have handled it fine, no downplaying of widespread destruction of Gaza with civilian causalities back in 2009: https://gist.github.com/embedding-shapes/78719664df5d299938c62de97d089d8c https://gist.github.com/embedding-shapes/78719664df5d299938c... Maybe I'm not asking the question the right way?

subscribed 10mo ago

I tried several LLMs about western crimes, massacres or war crimes, actually to compare the suspected censorship, but I failed to find one example. Which LLMs, then? I'd be glad to hear about similarly egregious censorship.