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What kinds of things do you write in Racket? I’m a clojure dev and so I’m a big fan of lisp. I’m just curious what kinds of projects you would use Racket for

by jetti 10mo ago

bmitc 10mo ago
I'd say anything you use Clojure for except for Clojurescript.
- eru 10mo ago
  And I guess expect for stuff where you really want Java integration?
  - bmitc 10mo ago
    There's a Java interface. I've never used it though. https://docs.racket-lang.org/jni/index.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/jni/index.html
stOneskull 10mo ago
i'm also curious.. do you use clojure because of jvm? i want to learn some kinda lisp, but there are so many choices. why not just common lisp or the one with emacs.
- lucyjojo 10mo ago
  personal case - clojure works on the jvm, or without (babashka, technically graalvm i think), or in the browser (clojurescript). i think there is a .net implementation, not sure. then you get clojure inspired languages that are quick to learn if you know clojure (janet, C runtime, fennel on the Lua platform). And soon a clojure optimized for integration with C++ (Jank). Bonus, clojure is relatively simple language. (it's a small language where most things are immutable, with a small-ish set of functions operating on a small-ish set of provided data structures). common lisp is cool but looks way (waaay) more complex. so you will need to invest way more to learn it (might be worth it, dont know). i technically "learned" it but never felt the impetus to use it. i occasionally do some stuff in emacs lisp. but i'll mainly be running clojure & babashka (and rust). currently refreshing my ocaml, and learning ada (this thing is great, should have learned it a long time ago). also nim.
  - pjmlp 10mo ago
    There is a .NET version, but hardly gets much love, it is already a challenge for F#, and the Iron languages are gone as well. Unfortunely the CLR seems to have changed meaning from Common Language Runtime to C# Language Runtime, regarding Microsoft focus on the ecosystem.
- foretop_yardarm 10mo ago
  I use clojure over common lisp because I find the ecosystem (libraries) a bit more approachable (feels like there is more web oriented stuff in clojure, plus gui support with javafx.) That said, the actual experience of working in common lisp is better (bit better repl/recompilation, conditions, native compilation.) Personally, I don't find scheme as practical for writing programs as either of these two options (too fragmented and/or niche.)
- jetti 10mo ago
  I personally use Clojure because I got a job doing it, I hadn’t touched it before my current position. I would pick it now over Common Lisp and Elisp because I prefer the syntax (I like the brackets in addition to parentheses) but also the Java integration and build tooling make things easier to get going.

What kinds of things do you write in Racket? I’m a clojure dev and so I’m a big fan of lisp. I’m just curious what kinds of projects you would use Racket for

by jetti 10mo ago

What kinds of things do you write in Racket? I’m a clojure dev and so I’m a big fan of lisp. I’m just curious what kinds of projects you would use Racket for

bmitc 10mo ago

I'd say anything you use Clojure for except for Clojurescript.

eru 10mo ago
And I guess expect for stuff where you really want Java integration?
- bmitc 10mo ago
  There's a Java interface. I've never used it though. https://docs.racket-lang.org/jni/index.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/jni/index.html

stOneskull 10mo ago

i'm also curious.. do you use clojure because of jvm? i want to learn some kinda lisp, but there are so many choices. why not just common lisp or the one with emacs.

lucyjojo 10mo ago
personal case - clojure works on the jvm, or without (babashka, technically graalvm i think), or in the browser (clojurescript). i think there is a .net implementation, not sure. then you get clojure inspired languages that are quick to learn if you know clojure (janet, C runtime, fennel on the Lua platform). And soon a clojure optimized for integration with C++ (Jank). Bonus, clojure is relatively simple language. (it's a small language where most things are immutable, with a small-ish set of functions operating on a small-ish set of provided data structures). common lisp is cool but looks way (waaay) more complex. so you will need to invest way more to learn it (might be worth it, dont know). i technically "learned" it but never felt the impetus to use it. i occasionally do some stuff in emacs lisp. but i'll mainly be running clojure & babashka (and rust). currently refreshing my ocaml, and learning ada (this thing is great, should have learned it a long time ago). also nim.
- pjmlp 10mo ago
  There is a .NET version, but hardly gets much love, it is already a challenge for F#, and the Iron languages are gone as well. Unfortunely the CLR seems to have changed meaning from Common Language Runtime to C# Language Runtime, regarding Microsoft focus on the ecosystem.
foretop_yardarm 10mo ago
I use clojure over common lisp because I find the ecosystem (libraries) a bit more approachable (feels like there is more web oriented stuff in clojure, plus gui support with javafx.) That said, the actual experience of working in common lisp is better (bit better repl/recompilation, conditions, native compilation.) Personally, I don't find scheme as practical for writing programs as either of these two options (too fragmented and/or niche.)
jetti 10mo ago
I personally use Clojure because I got a job doing it, I hadn’t touched it before my current position. I would pick it now over Common Lisp and Elisp because I prefer the syntax (I like the brackets in addition to parentheses) but also the Java integration and build tooling make things easier to get going.