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Why?
by potatocoffee 10mo ago
Why?
- jacobgkau 10mo agoBecause 7 years old is borderline too young to even make a depression diagnosis, and that kid's going to have his brain chemistry altered and essentially be addicted to a drug that he'll have to pay for for the rest of his life.
- potatocoffee 10mo agoO cool. Do you have any appointments I can book for my kid?
- fgonzag 10mo agoMine too! Only 2 years old but I can already see the massive anxiety bursts in him. If this guy has a non chemical cure, I'm all for it. In fact I'm actively researching children psychologists to stave off the meds as much as we can, the problem is that 99% of psychologists are quacks, so choosing them is tough.
- potatocoffee 10mo agoThere's only so many times a kid can get sent home from school for biting/kicking/punching before you realize you need some professional help and will do anything to help the poor kid. I wish you luck.
- pyth0 10mo agoHow can you believe it's both "no better than placebo" but also that it's "going to have his brain chemistry altered and essentially be addicted to a drug". SSRIs are not considered addictive, though people can develop a dependence if it provides them significant improvement.
- jacobgkau 10mo agoA drug can have real effects while being no better than a placebo for doing something specific (what they're supposed to do).
- pyth0 10mo agoOkay, so what makes you believe that about prozac (or SSRIs) then?
- ckw 10mo agoHere’s a paper from last year: The nature and impact of antidepressant withdrawal symptoms and proposal of the Discriminatory Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms Scale (DAWSS) https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jadr.2024.100765 https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jadr.2024.100765 ‘Highlights • Antidepressant withdrawal can be severe and protracted. • It produces characteristic physical and emotional symptoms. • All symptoms were more severe after stopping than before starting antidepressants. • We identified the 15 most discriminatory withdrawal symptoms in our sample. • Withdrawal did not differ between people with physical or mental health diagnoses.’
- jasonfarnon 10mo agoThe whole point of the linked article is that the drug is no better at placebo at treating depression but also carries a host of known side effects, besides unknowns when it comes to long term use. They're not saying it's inert.
- pyth0 10mo agoThat's fair, though I never implied that there were no side effects. The part I was trying to point out in the quote was the mention of it being addictive which is not really supported, nor is that mentioned in the article.
- robertakarobin 10mo agoAccording to our pediatrician there are no known long-term effects of juvenile Prozac use. The effects may exist, but if they do they are of sufficiently low significance as to not have been detected yet. Interestingly the one possible effect she's aware of is that there may be a correlation with not growing as tall physically as one might otherwise. The data is not conclusive, but it gives me something to blame for topping out at 5'10" and never hitting 6' like my dad. :)
- ckw 10mo agoThis is one of the most shocking things I have ever read. There is a black box warning for Prozac: ‘Warning: Suicidality and Antidepressant Drugs Increased risk of suicidal thinking and behavior in children, adolescents, and young adults taking antidepressants for Major Depressive Disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders’ Read the package insert: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2011/018936s091lbl.pdf https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2011/01... The fact that you were not informed about this should serve as proof that you cannot blindly trust what doctors tell you. They will absolutely kill you out of ignorance or incompetence, and never even realize their responsibility.
- ksenzee 10mo agoNote that the black box warning has nothing to do with long-term effects of the medication. It was added specifically because kids were killing themselves within weeks of starting the medication. > This is one of the most shocking things I have ever read. Good grief. I hope you're exaggerating for effect.