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Lots of examples, gender identity and requiring ethnic studies (focusing on white male privilege, settler/colonial, putting groups into binary oppressor/oppress

Lots of examples, gender identity and requiring ethnic studies (focusing on white male privilege, settler/colonial, putting groups into binary oppressor/oppressed). Also issues with requiring those classes vs not.

voxl 10mo ago
These are two indisputable facts about our world, if you disagree you are wrong and anti-science: 1. Gender is a social construct 2. Whiteness is a social construct and in particular has been used as a bludgeon against minority "non-whites" in the United States for a very long time If you do not believe these things you are the problem. You lack education. You lack critical thinking. You are brainwashed.
- abbycurtis33 10mo ago
  Gender is obvious and unchangeable. Everything else is a mental health issue, and truly sad.
- alimina 10mo ago
  Both of these social constructs must be challenged. The first is used to oppress women and girls primarily, and the second underpins racist oppression.
  - voxl 10mo ago
    Of course, I agree. But in the context of education if you reject the above (which MANY people on HN do) then you're delusional. There is nothing nice I have to say about it, and I know how dearly the HN crowd loves to clutch their pearls about the tone. It is akin to believing the world is flat, a broken ideology that should not be entertained. Once you accept the simple facts as above, then you can finally explore the consequences.
dfxm12 10mo ago
You've identified examples of values, but you have forgotten to link them to the left, forgotten to show if they are controversial and, probably most importantly, forgotten to show how schools are borderline pushing indoctrination of them.
- abbycurtis33 10mo ago
  Each of those is well within public knowledge.
  - ryandrake 10mo ago
    In other words, "Trust me, bro!"
throwaway-11-1 10mo ago
Literally nobody forces groups into a good/bad binary more than conservatives. What an embarrassing lack of self awareness (source: I went to a conservative christian school)

voxl 10mo ago

These are two indisputable facts about our world, if you disagree you are wrong and anti-science: 1. Gender is a social construct 2. Whiteness is a social construct and in particular has been used as a bludgeon against minority "non-whites" in the United States for a very long time If you do not believe these things you are the problem. You lack education. You lack critical thinking. You are brainwashed.

abbycurtis33 10mo ago
Gender is obvious and unchangeable. Everything else is a mental health issue, and truly sad.
alimina 10mo ago
Both of these social constructs must be challenged. The first is used to oppress women and girls primarily, and the second underpins racist oppression.
- voxl 10mo ago
  Of course, I agree. But in the context of education if you reject the above (which MANY people on HN do) then you're delusional. There is nothing nice I have to say about it, and I know how dearly the HN crowd loves to clutch their pearls about the tone. It is akin to believing the world is flat, a broken ideology that should not be entertained. Once you accept the simple facts as above, then you can finally explore the consequences.

dfxm12 10mo ago

You've identified examples of values, but you have forgotten to link them to the left, forgotten to show if they are controversial and, probably most importantly, forgotten to show how schools are borderline pushing indoctrination of them.

abbycurtis33 10mo ago
Each of those is well within public knowledge.
- ryandrake 10mo ago
  In other words, "Trust me, bro!"

throwaway-11-1 10mo ago

Literally nobody forces groups into a good/bad binary more than conservatives. What an embarrassing lack of self awareness (source: I went to a conservative christian school)