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How does this compare with delta lake and iceberg?

• oa335 10mo ago
  Vortex is a file format, where as delta lake and iceberg are table formats. it should be compared to Parquet rather than delta lake and iceberg. This guest lecture by a maintainer of Vortex provides a good overview of the file format, motivations for its creation and its key features. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyn_T5uragA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyn_T5uragA
  • sys13 10mo ago
    I think it would still make sense to compare with those table formats, or is the idea that you would only use this if you could not use a table format?
    • bz_bz_bz 10mo ago
      That’s like comparing words with characters. Vortex is, roughly, how you save data to files and Iceberg is the database-like manager of those files. You’ll soon be able to run Iceberg using Vortex because they are complementary, not competing, technologies.
  • ks2048 10mo ago
    The website could use a comparison / motivation in comparison to Parquet (beyond just stating it's 100x better).
    • 3eb7988a1663 10mo ago
      Agreed, really need a tl;dr here, because Parquet is boring technology. Going to require quite the sales pitch to move. At minimum, I assume it will be years before I could expect native integration in pandas/polars/etc which would make it low effort enough to consider. Parquet is ..fine, I guess. It is good enough. Why invoke churn? Sell me on the vision.
      • frisbm 10mo ago
        DuckDB just added support for vortex in their last release using the Vortex Python package so hopefully other tools wont be too far behind
      • bsder 10mo ago
        > Going to require quite the sales pitch to move. Mutability would be one such pitch I would like to see ...
• cpard 10mo ago
  As others said, Vortex is complementary to the table Formats you mentioned. There are other formats though that it can be compared to. The Lance columnar format is one: https://github.com/lancedb/lancedb https://github.com/lancedb/lancedb And Nimble from Meta is another: https://github.com/facebookincubator/nimble https://github.com/facebookincubator/nimble Parquet is so core to data infra and widespread, that removing it from its throne is a really really hard task. The people behind these projects that are willing to try and do this, have my total respect.