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>>> How should we think about cloud seeding? It's a way to take someone else's rain.

by unwise-exe 10mo ago

perhonen 10mo ago
who owns the rain? what if it was just going to fall in the oceans?
- barbazoo 10mo ago
  We’ll find out soon. Whoever is “taking” the rain is the one that owns it is my guess.
  - nerdponx 10mo ago
    My understanding is that cloud seeding has been going on for quite a while over Texas and the rest of the southern Plains. It's hidden in plain sight, and the only people who ever seem to talk about it are total wingnuts who also believe things like climate change is real but manufactured by the US and other world power militaries (using secret technology) for geopolitical purposes, often conflating real cloud seeding with variations on the classic chemtrails conspiracy theory. It's a largely unregulated continent scale weather and climate modification experiment. I haven't booked too deep into the research on it, but because powerful agricultural interests are involved, I'm sure nobody is looking too closely at externalities and would prefer to keep it that way.
- londons_explore 10mo ago
  Less rain than you'd imagine falls on the oceans, due to the land having varying elevation and temperature, whilst the oceans have far more constant elevation and temperature so the conditions needed for rain happen less.
  - coderintherye 10mo ago
    That's just...wrong. "78% of global precipitation occurs over the ocean" [1] [1] https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/nasa-earth-science-water-cycle https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/nasa-earth-science-w...
rcstank 10mo ago
Under international law, countries have complete and exclusive sovereignty over this airspace, just as they do over their land. They aren’t “taking someone else’s rain” because the clouds they’re seeding are effectively theirs anyway
- JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
  > Under international law, countries have complete and exclusive sovereignty over this airspace Iran isn’t operating under the protections nor restrictions of international law. Neither is its relevant neighbor. (Practically.) What they choose to do and how the other chooses to interpret it is very much…up in the air.

>>> How should we think about cloud seeding? It's a way to take someone else's rain.

perhonen 10mo ago

who owns the rain? what if it was just going to fall in the oceans?

barbazoo 10mo ago
We’ll find out soon. Whoever is “taking” the rain is the one that owns it is my guess.
- nerdponx 10mo ago
  My understanding is that cloud seeding has been going on for quite a while over Texas and the rest of the southern Plains. It's hidden in plain sight, and the only people who ever seem to talk about it are total wingnuts who also believe things like climate change is real but manufactured by the US and other world power militaries (using secret technology) for geopolitical purposes, often conflating real cloud seeding with variations on the classic chemtrails conspiracy theory. It's a largely unregulated continent scale weather and climate modification experiment. I haven't booked too deep into the research on it, but because powerful agricultural interests are involved, I'm sure nobody is looking too closely at externalities and would prefer to keep it that way.
londons_explore 10mo ago
Less rain than you'd imagine falls on the oceans, due to the land having varying elevation and temperature, whilst the oceans have far more constant elevation and temperature so the conditions needed for rain happen less.
- coderintherye 10mo ago
  That's just...wrong. "78% of global precipitation occurs over the ocean" [1] [1] https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/nasa-earth-science-water-cycle https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/nasa-earth-science-w...

rcstank 10mo ago

Under international law, countries have complete and exclusive sovereignty over this airspace, just as they do over their land. They aren’t “taking someone else’s rain” because the clouds they’re seeding are effectively theirs anyway

JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
> Under international law, countries have complete and exclusive sovereignty over this airspace Iran isn’t operating under the protections nor restrictions of international law. Neither is its relevant neighbor. (Practically.) What they choose to do and how the other chooses to interpret it is very much…up in the air.