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How can you even sue without any legal identity? This website and an organisation does not happen to have any. Might as well be some shell company in the Carrib
by AstralStorm 10mo ago
How can you even sue without any legal identity? This website and an organisation does not happen to have any.
Might as well be some shell company in the Carribeans with no legal standing in France. It's not even good enough for public prosecution, as the tip would then go through French services.
This law is completely backwards, and worse than a SLAPP. If you cannot respond to a report in any way, it should be null.
- valicord 10mo agoIf you can sue shark fins, why not a website? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Approximately_64,695_Pounds_of_Shark_Fins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Approximately...
- xandrius 10mo agoHoly crap, 30'000 sharks kills for a bloody soup. Insane and that wasn't even their only journey.
- flufluflufluffy 10mo agoAmazing, here is a list of other similarly hilariously-titled “in rem jurisdiction” cases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem_jurisdiction#Examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem_jurisdiction#Examples Some good ones: - United States v. One Solid Gold Object in Form of a Rooster - United States v. 11 1/4 Dozen Packages of Articles Labeled in Part Mrs. Moffat's Shoo-Fly Powders for Drunkenness - South Dakota v. Fifteen Impounded Cats
- bogwog 10mo agoMy favorite is United States v. One Solid Gold Object in Form of a Rooster. The Rooster won.
- robotnikman 10mo agoMy favorite one: United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Article_Consisting_of_50,000_Cardboard_Boxes_More_or_Less,_Each_Containing_One_Pair_of_Clacker_Balls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Article_Consi...
- rkomorn 10mo ago"More or Less" maybe takes the cake for me.
- qingcharles 10mo agoI've spent a lot of time in forfeiture court and it's always a chuckle to hear these cases get called. Especially the defendants' lawyer "Yes, your honor, I represent the cats." Always wanted the cat, or the Honda Civic or whatever to ask to represent themselves. I guess if there was a foreclosure against an Nvidia Spark with a local LLM it might be able to give it a worthy try.
- petalmind 10mo agoFantastic. Each case is basically an SCP object.
- oblio 10mo agoFrench law is based on an entirely different legal system compared to US (and Anglosphere law): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_legal_systems#/media/File:Legal_Systems_-_Global.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_legal_systems... It might not be possible to do something like that in France (though I assume there are other mechanisms available in that case).
- casefields 10mo agoLouisiana has a bunch of French law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Louisiana https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Louisiana
- oblio 10mo agoAnd your point of trivia is not applicable here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Ninth_Circuit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals... -> Louisiana isn't in the list for the court that handled that trial.
- SlightlyLeftPad 10mo agoLawmakers are gonna have to figure that out soon (years hopefully) since it’s not unlikely that AGI will have the same issue.
- saturnite 10mo agoI remember when publishers were suing individuals using nothing more than a list of IP addresses. Those crazy times seem to have come around again.
- miohtama 10mo agoIt's still being done https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/isp-sued-by-record-labels-agrees-to-identify-100-users-accused-of-piracy/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/isp-sued-by-reco...
- fragmede 10mo agoUS courts let you sue objects under "in rem" jurisdiction. In rem = the thing is the defendant. You're not suing a person, and you're asking the court to decide who owns or controls a specific property. The quintessential case is United States v. $124,700 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._$124,700_in_U.S._Currency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._$124,700_in_U...
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- mrtksn 10mo agoInteresting, so the US already has the tools to go after AI, self driving cars and robots.
- pwg 10mo ago> How can you even sue without any legal identity? The images of the various messages on the adguard page are not lawsuits. They are threatening messages that threaten to create legal issues, but until and unless they carry through on the threats, are simply "threats" to the extent we've been given any visibility into the messages contents.
- otterley 10mo agoIn the U.S., “John Doe” is typically used when cannot (yet) identify the person to name as a defendant. Once the case is filed then the plaintiff can execute the necessary subpoenas to identify the defendant specifically.