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All of those are examples of overbloated, slow, horrible user experience apps.

by PenguinCoder 10mo ago

brokencode 10mo ago
They work great for me.
- homebrewer 10mo ago
  Oh yes, the great old "works for me". On a yesterday's supercomputer, I presume? I live in a "developing" (have doubts it's really developing) country, most people are running laptops with no more than 8 GiB of RAM (sometimes it's 4 or less), and all this Electron nonsense is running like molasses, especially if you're trying to use a computer like a proper computer and do multitasking. And most of the world is like that, very few of us (speaking globally) have $2k to drop on a new supercomputer every few years to run our chat applications.
- iberator 10mo ago
  Hey, I found CEO of Discord
glzone1 10mo ago
Does their market share back up your take of them as horrible apps? Are there QT or GTK competitors crushing them? I always hear how terrible electron apps are, but the companies picking electron seem to get traction QT or other apps don't and seem to have a good cross platform story as well.
- Antibabelic 10mo ago
  Users will happily deal with a suboptimal experience as long as there are other things attracting them to the product. That's why Microsoft can do whatever it wants with Windows without worrying their users will run off somewhere else. So if you care more about people than businesses, maybe it shouldn't be an excuse to pick "better dev experience" over the user's.
- tjpnz 10mo ago
  They said horrible user experience apps, not horrible apps. You can still deliver an app with a horrible user experience and build a profitable business. Ever done an expense report? Companies aren't picking Electron due to inherent shortcomings in other platforms, they're picking it because it's easier (and cheaper) to find JavaScript devs who can get up to speed with it quickly.
  - brokencode 10mo ago
    Discord, VS Code, and Figma are all apps that individuals choose and are well liked despite many alternatives. Slack too I think, though I don’t have experience with it. Your comment applies to Teams and I’m sure other electron apps. But the sweeping generalization that electron apps have terrible user experiences is pretty obviously incorrect.
- rixed 10mo ago
  Beware with that logic. You notice successful electron apps because of how bloated they are. I suspect you use many Qt apps without even noticing. One that comes to mind that I use daily and noticed only recently that it was implemented in Qt is the telegram desktop app.

All of those are examples of overbloated, slow, horrible user experience apps.

brokencode 10mo ago

They work great for me.

homebrewer 10mo ago
Oh yes, the great old "works for me". On a yesterday's supercomputer, I presume? I live in a "developing" (have doubts it's really developing) country, most people are running laptops with no more than 8 GiB of RAM (sometimes it's 4 or less), and all this Electron nonsense is running like molasses, especially if you're trying to use a computer like a proper computer and do multitasking. And most of the world is like that, very few of us (speaking globally) have $2k to drop on a new supercomputer every few years to run our chat applications.
iberator 10mo ago
Hey, I found CEO of Discord

glzone1 10mo ago

Does their market share back up your take of them as horrible apps? Are there QT or GTK competitors crushing them? I always hear how terrible electron apps are, but the companies picking electron seem to get traction QT or other apps don't and seem to have a good cross platform story as well.

Antibabelic 10mo ago
Users will happily deal with a suboptimal experience as long as there are other things attracting them to the product. That's why Microsoft can do whatever it wants with Windows without worrying their users will run off somewhere else. So if you care more about people than businesses, maybe it shouldn't be an excuse to pick "better dev experience" over the user's.
tjpnz 10mo ago
They said horrible user experience apps, not horrible apps. You can still deliver an app with a horrible user experience and build a profitable business. Ever done an expense report? Companies aren't picking Electron due to inherent shortcomings in other platforms, they're picking it because it's easier (and cheaper) to find JavaScript devs who can get up to speed with it quickly.
- brokencode 10mo ago
  Discord, VS Code, and Figma are all apps that individuals choose and are well liked despite many alternatives. Slack too I think, though I don’t have experience with it. Your comment applies to Teams and I’m sure other electron apps. But the sweeping generalization that electron apps have terrible user experiences is pretty obviously incorrect.
rixed 10mo ago
Beware with that logic. You notice successful electron apps because of how bloated they are. I suspect you use many Qt apps without even noticing. One that comes to mind that I use daily and noticed only recently that it was implemented in Qt is the telegram desktop app.