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Peter Thiel thinks Greta Thunberg is the antichrist. this should be disqualifying for life in the public sphere and somehow it is not.

saubeidl 10mo ago
We must understand that all of our industries leaders are deeply mentally ill and dangerous people. Whether that is from not ever being told no once they got rich enough or whether it's pathological to even seek out that dimension of wealth is not clear, but the result is worrying either way.
- noir_lord 10mo ago
  Understanding isn't going far enough (though it's a nescessary first step), We should all be demanding that our governments reign these idiots in before they do something we can't undo. That Clegg is in these emails is particularly onerous.
  - vvpan 10mo ago
    Britain's ex-Deputy Prime Minister it so happens.
- jimbokun 10mo ago
  Are you a licensed psychiatrist?
  - saubeidl 10mo ago
    Are Ubers licensed taxis? Are Airbnbs licensed hotels?
    - jimbokun 10mo ago
      So you're like an Uber psychiatrist compared to a licensed taxi psychiatrist?
      - saubeidl 10mo ago
        Licenses don't matter in the toxic world these people are building.
throitallaway 10mo ago
It's always projection with those people.
- jimbokun 10mo ago
  Can you please express a coherent thought instead of regurgitating the same meme that appears in any discussion about anything?
- toss1 10mo ago
  Yes, it is very much projection. It is also (and it surprises me that this ancient observation is so little cited), a highly visible example of "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely". Watching at these people accumulate and hoard hundreds of billions of wealth, in a capitalist society where wealth equals power, and become ever more corrupt as they do so, simply demonstrates the point yet again. And we must suffer the consequences as they choose to corrupt the govt so they can accumulate more power instead of doing works to benefit all. Just for some perspective, I once calculated what it means to be rich. I called it at spending at a constant average of USD$2500/day. With 'only' $20million yielding 5%, you have $2700/day without even touching principle. There is no level of basic and even luxury needs that cannot be met with that kind of spending. OK, you want more, how about spending $25,000 per day, EVERY day for the rest of your life? That takes 'only' $200 million. Those people have hundreds of times the amount of money that could ever make a difference in their standard of living. The point is that once you reach past these levels, more money literally makes no material difference in your standard of living. Hoarding more money is only about one thing, power. As a society, we need to be doing something different.
vvpan 10mo ago
And Elon Musk does Nazi salutes in-front of the nation and just goes back to being CEO of things.
- throwaway20222 10mo ago
  Why the down votes? Should I not believe my own eyes?
  - vvpan 10mo ago
    If it was not a guy who regularly engages with and thus gives platform to neo-Nazi accounts on X I might've considered giving him the benefit of doubt. It is very easy to find specific accounts that Musk brings readers to (or you can just be on X and follow him): https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-x-blocked-journalists-researchers-neo-nazi-cartoonist/ https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-x-blocked-journalists-... https://www.sacurrent.com/news/revealed-the-operators-behind-four-major-neo-nazi-x-accounts-36400534/ https://www.sacurrent.com/news/revealed-the-operators-behind...
  - rsynnott 10mo ago
    > The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command George Orwell, 1984
  - jalapenof 10mo ago
    [dead]
jimbokun 10mo ago
What the fuck is the "public sphere" and who decides who does or does not get a membership card? Like, call Thiel an idiot with stupid ideas that are dumb, fine, but trying to cancel someone from the "public sphere" just reeks of passive aggression.
- rsynnott 10mo ago
  I'd read this as "no-one should take the insane person seriously".
  - jimbokun 10mo ago
    Well then just say that.
- latexr 10mo ago
  > What the fuck is the "public sphere" All of us, collectively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sphere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sphere > and who decides who does or does not get a membership card? All of us, collectively.

saubeidl 10mo ago

We must understand that all of our industries leaders are deeply mentally ill and dangerous people. Whether that is from not ever being told no once they got rich enough or whether it's pathological to even seek out that dimension of wealth is not clear, but the result is worrying either way.

noir_lord 10mo ago
Understanding isn't going far enough (though it's a nescessary first step), We should all be demanding that our governments reign these idiots in before they do something we can't undo. That Clegg is in these emails is particularly onerous.
- vvpan 10mo ago
  Britain's ex-Deputy Prime Minister it so happens.
jimbokun 10mo ago
Are you a licensed psychiatrist?
- saubeidl 10mo ago
  Are Ubers licensed taxis? Are Airbnbs licensed hotels?
  - jimbokun 10mo ago
    So you're like an Uber psychiatrist compared to a licensed taxi psychiatrist?
    - saubeidl 10mo ago
      Licenses don't matter in the toxic world these people are building.

throitallaway 10mo ago

It's always projection with those people.

jimbokun 10mo ago
Can you please express a coherent thought instead of regurgitating the same meme that appears in any discussion about anything?
toss1 10mo ago
Yes, it is very much projection. It is also (and it surprises me that this ancient observation is so little cited), a highly visible example of "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely". Watching at these people accumulate and hoard hundreds of billions of wealth, in a capitalist society where wealth equals power, and become ever more corrupt as they do so, simply demonstrates the point yet again. And we must suffer the consequences as they choose to corrupt the govt so they can accumulate more power instead of doing works to benefit all. Just for some perspective, I once calculated what it means to be rich. I called it at spending at a constant average of USD$2500/day. With 'only' $20million yielding 5%, you have $2700/day without even touching principle. There is no level of basic and even luxury needs that cannot be met with that kind of spending. OK, you want more, how about spending $25,000 per day, EVERY day for the rest of your life? That takes 'only' $200 million. Those people have hundreds of times the amount of money that could ever make a difference in their standard of living. The point is that once you reach past these levels, more money literally makes no material difference in your standard of living. Hoarding more money is only about one thing, power. As a society, we need to be doing something different.

vvpan 10mo ago

And Elon Musk does Nazi salutes in-front of the nation and just goes back to being CEO of things.

throwaway20222 10mo ago
Why the down votes? Should I not believe my own eyes?
- vvpan 10mo ago
  If it was not a guy who regularly engages with and thus gives platform to neo-Nazi accounts on X I might've considered giving him the benefit of doubt. It is very easy to find specific accounts that Musk brings readers to (or you can just be on X and follow him): https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-x-blocked-journalists-researchers-neo-nazi-cartoonist/ https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-x-blocked-journalists-... https://www.sacurrent.com/news/revealed-the-operators-behind-four-major-neo-nazi-x-accounts-36400534/ https://www.sacurrent.com/news/revealed-the-operators-behind...
- rsynnott 10mo ago
  > The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command George Orwell, 1984
- jalapenof 10mo ago
  [dead]

jimbokun 10mo ago

What the fuck is the "public sphere" and who decides who does or does not get a membership card? Like, call Thiel an idiot with stupid ideas that are dumb, fine, but trying to cancel someone from the "public sphere" just reeks of passive aggression.

rsynnott 10mo ago
I'd read this as "no-one should take the insane person seriously".
- jimbokun 10mo ago
  Well then just say that.
latexr 10mo ago
> What the fuck is the "public sphere" All of us, collectively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sphere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sphere > and who decides who does or does not get a membership card? All of us, collectively.