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You could make that exact same argument for alcohol, cigarettes, prescription medication - The reasons are the same.

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
And because of the laws, it has stopped children from smoking, drinking and abusing drugs. The entire war on drugs has been such a success.
- phatfish 11mo ago
  Of course age laws have worked. Adults are the smokers, drinkers and drug abusers. Do you want a situation with kids being drunk in school because they can just go to a shop during break and get a bottle of Vodka, no questions asked?
  - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
    Really? 30%+ of teenagers smoke weed https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/everything-you-and-your-teenager-should-know-about-cannabis https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/everything-you-and-your-... Statistics for drinking https://www.responsibility.org/alcohol-statistics/underage-drinking-statistics/ https://www.responsibility.org/alcohol-statistics/underage-d... Even when I was in school in the 90s high schoolers were sneaking and smoking during school
- buu700 11mo ago
  To be fair, the "War on Tobacco" has actually been a huge success[1]. I've been saying for years that we should end the War on Drugs in its current form and extend tobacco policy to other drugs. If you're old enough to drink, smoke, and get shipped off to a warzone, who is anyone else to tell you that you don't deserve the freedom to buy a bottle of pharmaceutical-grade heroin at CVS and shoot it up in the privacy of your own home? But because we collectively insist on infantilizing ourselves, hundreds of billions of dollars per year are redirected from the pharma industry to black market criminal syndicates. Instead of funding medical research and stock buybacks, we're actively choosing to fund global chaos and mass atrocities. We could stop tomorrow, and it would cost us nothing. In fact, it would save the US billions of dollars in annual losses at all levels of government and generate billions of dollars in annual tax revenue, all of which could be used to fund things like addiction treatment services, law enforcement, and border security. 1: https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-smoking-trends https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco...
  - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
    And it’s been replaced with more people smoking weed. https://nida.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/2024/08/cannabis-and-hallucinogen-use-among-adults-remained-at-historic-highs-in-2023 https://nida.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/2024/08/canna...
    - buu700 11mo ago
      That's great to hear, although they really should prefer vaporization, sublingual administration, and edibles/potables to smoking.

And because of the laws, it has stopped children from smoking, drinking and abusing drugs. The entire war on drugs has been such a success.

phatfish 11mo ago
Of course age laws have worked. Adults are the smokers, drinkers and drug abusers. Do you want a situation with kids being drunk in school because they can just go to a shop during break and get a bottle of Vodka, no questions asked?
- raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
  Really? 30%+ of teenagers smoke weed https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/everything-you-and-your-teenager-should-know-about-cannabis https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/everything-you-and-your-... Statistics for drinking https://www.responsibility.org/alcohol-statistics/underage-drinking-statistics/ https://www.responsibility.org/alcohol-statistics/underage-d... Even when I was in school in the 90s high schoolers were sneaking and smoking during school
buu700 11mo ago
To be fair, the "War on Tobacco" has actually been a huge success[1]. I've been saying for years that we should end the War on Drugs in its current form and extend tobacco policy to other drugs. If you're old enough to drink, smoke, and get shipped off to a warzone, who is anyone else to tell you that you don't deserve the freedom to buy a bottle of pharmaceutical-grade heroin at CVS and shoot it up in the privacy of your own home? But because we collectively insist on infantilizing ourselves, hundreds of billions of dollars per year are redirected from the pharma industry to black market criminal syndicates. Instead of funding medical research and stock buybacks, we're actively choosing to fund global chaos and mass atrocities. We could stop tomorrow, and it would cost us nothing. In fact, it would save the US billions of dollars in annual losses at all levels of government and generate billions of dollars in annual tax revenue, all of which could be used to fund things like addiction treatment services, law enforcement, and border security. 1: https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-smoking-trends https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco...
- raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
  And it’s been replaced with more people smoking weed. https://nida.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/2024/08/cannabis-and-hallucinogen-use-among-adults-remained-at-historic-highs-in-2023 https://nida.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/2024/08/canna...
  - buu700 11mo ago
    That's great to hear, although they really should prefer vaporization, sublingual administration, and edibles/potables to smoking.