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> When Deutsche Telekom customers want to watch YouTube, that traffic flows directly from Google's network to Deutsche Telekom's network at a Frankfurt exchange
by Starlevel004 10mo ago
> When Deutsche Telekom customers want to watch YouTube, that traffic flows directly from Google's network to Deutsche Telekom's network at a Frankfurt exchange point—maybe four or five router hops, minimal latency, no intermediaries. It's elegant. It's efficient. And it's exactly what Vodafone is abandoning.
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- cachius 10mo agoWhy?
- Dilettante_ 10mo agoAI writing cadence I presume. Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45850683 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45850683
- cachius 10mo agoThanks. I thought it was something factually wrong.
- galaxy_gas 10mo agoIt is also likely factually wrong as most major ISPs use GGC for popular traffic
- marcusb 10mo agoAfter using Deutsche Telekom as an example of how great direct peering is, a few paragraphs later the article uses Deutsche Telekom as an example of the dangers of using peering provider intermediaries.
- PhilKunz 10mo agoIs it the only peering of Starlink though?
- marcusb 10mo ago? My comment had nothing to do with Starlink. Your first example I was referring to - which you've now edited out of the article[0] to be more generic - stated: > When Deutsche Telekom customers want to watch YouTube, that traffic flows directly from Google's network to Deutsche Telekom's network at a Frankfurt exchange point—maybe four or five router hops, minimal latency, no intermediaries. It's elegant. It's efficient. And it's exactly what Vodafone is abandoning. Later: > Deutsche Telekom pioneered this model in Germany, and the results have been catastrophic for customers. Not "slightly annoying" or "a bit slower"—genuinely, documentably terrible. 0 - original here: https://web.archive.org/web/20251107180616/https://coffee.link/vodafone-germany-is-killing-the-open-internet-one-peering-connection-at-a-time/ https://web.archive.org/web/20251107180616/https://coffee.li...
- PhilKunz 10mo agofair enough. I replied to the wrong comment. Sorry for that. coffee.link is getting a git based version feature to make changes more transparent. Also there is a deno (+ electron for GUI version) based testing tool coming to better understand network routes. Additionally I plan to do a well researched series called "How does the internet work".
- inemesitaffia 10mo agoSpaceX is both customer and peer of inter.link