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As cool as this is there won't be an European alternative as long as all the apps you'd want to use on a smartphone require either Google Play or the Apple App
by devjab 11mo ago
As cool as this is there won't be an European alternative as long as all the apps you'd want to use on a smartphone require either Google Play or the Apple App store.
- muyuu 11mo agoit does run some sort of Android emulation layer
- hkt 11mo agoIt runs Android apps. Presumably, it has access to the Play store in some capacity, or a viable alternative.
- rchaud 11mo agoAccess to the Play Store requires the proprietary Google Play Services code, so I doubt this has it. The alternative would be installing apps via APK files.
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- rst 11mo agoAccording to Wikipedia,there are apps that provide an emulated Android environment ("Easy Abroad", "Droitong"), they're incomplete and glitchy, and a lot of important apps won't run at all (including banking apps and streaming services).
- poetaster 11mo agoPeople often use micro-g and co.
- nicce 11mo agoHuawei just created new OS and removed all traces of Android and Linux. Just like that. If there is will, it is possible.
- kaoD 11mo ago...if there is will, a nice state sponsor and an already existing effective infrastructure. Europe has none of the 3.
- fabrice_d 11mo agoNo, the phone variant of HarmonyOS runs on top of a Linux kernel.
- nicce 11mo agoNope, the new version removed it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT
- fabrice_d 11mo agoIndeed, I did not see that!
- rzerowan 11mo agoI believe thats being phased out slowly to be native app only with their multidevice HarmonyOSNext (mobile/pc). Once the major apps move over , last bits of linux will be excised.
- kelnos 11mo agoCan it run all of the kinds of apps that people (in the EU/US markets, which is relevant to the discussion at hand) actually want to run? SalifishOS doesn't even do that, at least not for me.
- jajuuka 11mo agoIf I remember correctly they have had a translation layer for android apps since they launched. But it's similar to what Apple has done with Rosetta 2 where it getting phased out for native apps only.
- kube-system 11mo ago
- m4rtink 11mo agoAren't you basically describing a chicken and egg problem?
- devjab 11mo agoI think it's more of an EU problem. We have so many public apps that rely on two big American tech companies solely because the EU has yet to figure out an alternative app store with enough security to make those apps available. This likely made sense 10 years ago, but today with all the talk about digital sovereignty it's frankly a little weak. It's not the OS that is the issue though, I could use graphene or similar just fine, but they wouldn't let me run a single of the apps that are the sole reason I have a smartphone. Well.. maybe the Microsoft authenticator? I mean, I have to write exit strategies from Azure because the EU might demand our industry to leave non-EU infra. Yet ironically the digital company ID I would need to sign new contracts with within Europe aren't available without one of the two app stores. It's not that I can't sign those contracts without the ID, but I'd probably have to go to Germany in person.
- miohtama 11mo agoThere are exit strategies, but the EU is spineless to execute them. Just like with defence.
- dredmorbius 11mo agoThe EU can address that issue through regulation and competition requirements.