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"Theft" means taking something from someone without consent. Who lost what ? There is no law suite, so maybe it's a donation ??
by nroets 11mo ago
"Theft" means taking something from someone without consent. Who lost what ? There is no law suite, so maybe it's a donation ??
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- verdverm 11mo agoThe taxpayers / government. If they have been abusing their NP status to avoid taxes, they should have to back pay those.
- next_xibalba 11mo agoSurely they have never turned a profit and are a long way from being profitable. If so, what taxes, current or back, would they owe?
- selectodude 11mo agoThe money they received was tax deductible for the people who “donated it”. They money should have been taxed as income for either the earner or OpenAI.
- verdverm 11mo agoI'd be curious if people were actually writing off their OpenAI bills as donations. That would be a big number for the enterprise deals, if they qualify as a donation
- the_duke 11mo agoSurely the money coming in would otherwise have been investments exchanged for stock, which are not taxed until gains are realized.
- verdverm 11mo agoIncome taxes are not the only tax non-profits are exempted from. Sales and property taxes are others, depending on jurisdiction, California being one such state. I am not familiar if OpenAI-NP has been exempted from these https://www.fplglaw.com/insights/california-nonprofit-law-essentials-part-4-state-tax-exemption/ https://www.fplglaw.com/insights/california-nonprofit-law-es...
- khazhoux 11mo agoWhat taxes are they not paying? I am unable to find any concrete claim of specific tax avoidance. Only these exasperated “but taxes” comments.
- asadotzler 11mo agoNon-profits are literally tax-exempt. OAI spent 10 years being tax-exempt in exchange for doing work that fully benefits the public. Now that work, 10 years of tax exempt work, is being handed over to a taxable outfit, a for-profit organization. If the result of 10 years of tax-exempt efforts get handed to a for-profit company, the taxes that were never paid should be because the public benefit that got them the tax benefit wasn't fulfilled, in fact it was stolen and handed to ultra-wealthy capitalists.
- pixl97 11mo agoYou mean the results that a few other companies almost instantly copied and productive themselves once the way to do it was discovered? There is no moat around LLMs.
- oklahomasports 11mo agoDo you think really think they were profitable during that time?
- khazhoux 11mo agoWhat taxes did the non-profit skirt? All the sources I can find say that the revenue of ChatGPT was through the for-profit division, and that they’ve been paying taxes on all their revenue. Is there some other tax that they’ve avoided paying?
- verdverm 11mo agoSales & property, see my nearby comment for links
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- AJ007 11mo agoThe AI researchers who joined and worked for less money than they would have been paid by a big tech company because they thought it was the right thing to do.