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Trump orders immediate resumption of US nuclear weapons testing

30 points by hackthemack 11mo ago

measurablefunc 11mo ago
No one knows where we are going, the aim of life has been forgotten, the end has been left behind. Man has set out at tremendous speed — to go nowhere. - Jacques Ellul
_wire_ 11mo ago
Possibly the stupidest president of all time... He thinks with his colon.
vdupras 11mo ago
So, is it time to wish for TACO?
techblueberry 11mo ago
He should get two peace prizes.
- treetalker 11mo ago
  He lost the Peace Prize so he's trying his hand at Physics.
  - techblueberry 11mo ago
    He can always try to submit the record of all his truths for literature.
r721 11mo ago
I think he got confused with the terminology - Putin said he tested nuclear-powered Burevestnik, but that's not the same as testing nuclear weapons.
- measurablefunc 11mo ago
  Technically it is a nuclear weapon. It uses radioactive material in some non-trivial capacity.
  - ggm 11mo ago
    I think "technically" is doing a lot of heavy lifting when the nuclear component is an engine. It's like classic geek ratholing. if a nuclear submarine launches a tomahawk with a non-nuclear warhead is the entire weapons system "a nuclear weapon" in your eyes? Is that a breach of the arms treaties, and breaches "no first strike" posture and invites second strike response with nuclear warheads?
    - measurablefunc 11mo ago
      I wasn't arguing about semantics. Trump is an idiot but the people who work for him are not as idiotic so they saw the latest propaganda from Russia & decided that the new policy would be the proper response.
      - ggm 11mo ago
        Russia tested a nuclear capable long duration engine and the US response as reported to media is that the WH requested a resumption of nuclear weapons tests. Not nuclear engine tests.
        measurablefunc 11mo ago
        The public will be happy w/ their response. You're drawing distinctions very few people care about which is why Trump is president & you're arguing w/ random internet strangers about the absurdity of the response.
      - mindslight 11mo ago
        > Trump is an idiot but the people who work for him are not as idiotic Apparently you haven't noticed that Tramp has been purging anyone loyal to the United States as a country and installing subservient apparatchiks in their place. This is not a dynamic which selects for intelligence, competence, or subject matter focus.
andsoitis 11mo ago
Watch Kathryn Bigelow's new movie, "A House of Dynamite". https://www.netflix.com/title/81744537 https://www.netflix.com/title/81744537
- silisili 11mo ago
  I'm sorry I did. Absolutely terrible movie with no real point.
  - westpfelia 11mo ago
    Hard disagree. I think the point is that as a nation and a world if something like this were to happen there are no good or easy answers. The movie doesnt have a concrete ending because it doesnt need one. Any single nation firing a nuclear missle at America (or any major nation) would change the world forever. Successful or not. Real life isnt a Tom Clancy novel. Jack Ryan wont save the day.
    - PleasureBot 11mo ago
      The premise of the movie doesn't make any sense. There is no pressure to retaliate to a single nuclear missile launched at Chicago within the 18 minute flight of the missile. The only scenario that introduces a minutes-long decision window is if the US nuclear capability is in imminent danger, which it obviously is not from a single missile headed for Chicago. What any person not following a Hollywood script would do is wait few hours for credible intelligence, coordinate with other nuclear powers to avoid escalation, and wipe out whoever conducted the attack. Its a movie that only works if you don't think about it, which is a major problem because it is trying to be thought provoking.
      - andsoitis 11mo ago
        > The premise of the movie doesn't make any sense. There is no pressure to retaliate to a single nuclear missile launched at Chicago within the 18 minute flight of the missile. You don’t think it is plausible for the US detection systems to be offline, inaccurate, or unmanned?
lawn 11mo ago
Trump is following his idol Putin and is transforming USA into Russia with every day.
random9749832 11mo ago
We are so back! How many bad 20th century ideas can we fit into the 2020s?

30 points by hackthemack 11mo ago

No one knows where we are going, the aim of life has been forgotten, the end has been left behind. Man has set out at tremendous speed — to go nowhere. - Jacques Ellul

_wire_ 11mo ago

Possibly the stupidest president of all time... He thinks with his colon.

vdupras 11mo ago

So, is it time to wish for TACO?

techblueberry 11mo ago

He should get two peace prizes.

treetalker 11mo ago
He lost the Peace Prize so he's trying his hand at Physics.
- techblueberry 11mo ago
  He can always try to submit the record of all his truths for literature.

r721 11mo ago

I think he got confused with the terminology - Putin said he tested nuclear-powered Burevestnik, but that's not the same as testing nuclear weapons.

measurablefunc 11mo ago
Technically it is a nuclear weapon. It uses radioactive material in some non-trivial capacity.
- ggm 11mo ago
  I think "technically" is doing a lot of heavy lifting when the nuclear component is an engine. It's like classic geek ratholing. if a nuclear submarine launches a tomahawk with a non-nuclear warhead is the entire weapons system "a nuclear weapon" in your eyes? Is that a breach of the arms treaties, and breaches "no first strike" posture and invites second strike response with nuclear warheads?
  - measurablefunc 11mo ago
    I wasn't arguing about semantics. Trump is an idiot but the people who work for him are not as idiotic so they saw the latest propaganda from Russia & decided that the new policy would be the proper response.
    - ggm 11mo ago
      Russia tested a nuclear capable long duration engine and the US response as reported to media is that the WH requested a resumption of nuclear weapons tests. Not nuclear engine tests.
      - measurablefunc 11mo ago
        The public will be happy w/ their response. You're drawing distinctions very few people care about which is why Trump is president & you're arguing w/ random internet strangers about the absurdity of the response.
    - mindslight 11mo ago
      > Trump is an idiot but the people who work for him are not as idiotic Apparently you haven't noticed that Tramp has been purging anyone loyal to the United States as a country and installing subservient apparatchiks in their place. This is not a dynamic which selects for intelligence, competence, or subject matter focus.

andsoitis 11mo ago

Watch Kathryn Bigelow's new movie, "A House of Dynamite". https://www.netflix.com/title/81744537 https://www.netflix.com/title/81744537

silisili 11mo ago
I'm sorry I did. Absolutely terrible movie with no real point.
- westpfelia 11mo ago
  Hard disagree. I think the point is that as a nation and a world if something like this were to happen there are no good or easy answers. The movie doesnt have a concrete ending because it doesnt need one. Any single nation firing a nuclear missle at America (or any major nation) would change the world forever. Successful or not. Real life isnt a Tom Clancy novel. Jack Ryan wont save the day.
  - PleasureBot 11mo ago
    The premise of the movie doesn't make any sense. There is no pressure to retaliate to a single nuclear missile launched at Chicago within the 18 minute flight of the missile. The only scenario that introduces a minutes-long decision window is if the US nuclear capability is in imminent danger, which it obviously is not from a single missile headed for Chicago. What any person not following a Hollywood script would do is wait few hours for credible intelligence, coordinate with other nuclear powers to avoid escalation, and wipe out whoever conducted the attack. Its a movie that only works if you don't think about it, which is a major problem because it is trying to be thought provoking.
    - andsoitis 11mo ago
      > The premise of the movie doesn't make any sense. There is no pressure to retaliate to a single nuclear missile launched at Chicago within the 18 minute flight of the missile. You don’t think it is plausible for the US detection systems to be offline, inaccurate, or unmanned?

lawn 11mo ago

Trump is following his idol Putin and is transforming USA into Russia with every day.

random9749832 11mo ago

We are so back! How many bad 20th century ideas can we fit into the 2020s?