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I've had great luck with 10gtek modules both with Mikrotik gear, with DACs, and one that is connected to an upstream juniper switch. I'm curious what modules we

by jabart 11mo ago

I've had great luck with 10gtek modules both with Mikrotik gear, with DACs, and one that is connected to an upstream juniper switch. I'm curious what modules were the most troublesom. * I will note that the 10gb sfp+ modules from 10gtek on a Mikrotik just don't work.

donatj 11mo ago
Funnily enough, this 10gtek worked on one of my 3 switches, but I could only establish a gigabit connection. I returned it [1] These 10gtek fiber modules on the other hand have worked flawlessly so far. [2] This Mikrotik module would not establish a 10 gb link with my Thunderbolt dock no matter what I tried. Works fine with my servers though so I swapped it out. I've pretty much resigned myself to just buying the full brand Ubiqitui SFP+ adapters [4] for converting to copper. I recently purchased [5] to run to my living room, but I have not found the time/energy to do the run. 1. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KFBFL16 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KFBFL16 2. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BP4M8LV https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BP4M8LV 3. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078SNK1MY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078SNK1MY 4. https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/accessories-modules-fiber/collections/accessories-pro-direct-attach-cables/products/uacc-cm-rj45-mg https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/accessories-modules-fibe... 5. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYC6P6KF https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYC6P6KF
- tguvot 11mo ago
  did you try to disable autonegotiation and force speed ? i think i had to do it a couple of times with copper
  - donatj 11mo ago
    Yep. I actually had to do that to get the Ubiqiti one to work. It just did not work when I tried that with the Mikrotik adapter.
    - tguvot 11mo ago
      btw, if you are using 10gbe copper modules, take a look at their temperature. some of mine were getting to 92C i think. had to put a bunch of heatsinks on them
      - LtdJorge 11mo ago
        I put a couple of Noctua NF-14 over the top ventilation holes in my rack, with the silicone mounting thingies and the NA-FC1 PWM controller. They are almost silent in winter. The switch with 10Gb copper is under the fans.
        tguvot 11mo ago
        i opened switch and put noctua inside to cool sfp cage that i added heatsink to, in addition to heatsinks on sfp+ module itself. it dropped temperature from 92c to 75c. year later i replaced it with fiber run.
    - chopsuei3 11mo ago
      Make sure you also pay attention to the distance rating of the SFP. I had a very similar experience with modules not working at the right speed sometimes. Turned out I was running 50 meters of cable over a 30 meter SFP. Got the correct one, and as low wattage rating as possible and it's been rock solid ever since.
- booi 11mo ago
  I tried converting everything to copper as well but the copper DACs use a lot of power and ended up not working out due to the greatly increased power usage (mostly because the networking "closet" wasn't really designed for it). So beware if you're moving it to copper
LtdJorge 11mo ago
I have a few SFP+ doing 10GbE over UTP from 10Gtek in a Mikrotik. They work perfectly, although hot (to be expected).
- MisterTea 11mo ago
  I have found that a fiber patch cable paired with two SFPs is cheaper and more power efficient than an equivalent UTP setup. This lead me to move to all fiber/DAC for 10Gb save for the 10Gb UTP link to my router that lacks SFP. I have the 8 port 10Gb + 1 Gb from mikrotik and the UTP SFP's run stupid hot because they have to drive a cable at GHz speeds. The fiber and DAC (direct attach cable) SFPs are cool to the touch by comparison.
simoncion 11mo ago
> * I will note that the 10gb sfp+ modules from 10gtek on a Mikrotik just don't work. Weird. For the past three years, I've had 10Gtek 10gbit SFP+ optical modules in all of my Mikrotik switches [0] and they Just Work. My switches are the CRS326-24G-2S+, and the SFPs were the "generic" versions. I wonder why yours were so troublesome. [0] ...and (after fixing their eeproms) my Intel x520 NICs...

by jabart 11mo ago

donatj 11mo ago

Funnily enough, this 10gtek worked on one of my 3 switches, but I could only establish a gigabit connection. I returned it [1] These 10gtek fiber modules on the other hand have worked flawlessly so far. [2] This Mikrotik module would not establish a 10 gb link with my Thunderbolt dock no matter what I tried. Works fine with my servers though so I swapped it out. I've pretty much resigned myself to just buying the full brand Ubiqitui SFP+ adapters [4] for converting to copper. I recently purchased [5] to run to my living room, but I have not found the time/energy to do the run. 1. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KFBFL16 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KFBFL16 2. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BP4M8LV https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BP4M8LV 3. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078SNK1MY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078SNK1MY 4. https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/accessories-modules-fiber/collections/accessories-pro-direct-attach-cables/products/uacc-cm-rj45-mg https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/accessories-modules-fibe... 5. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYC6P6KF https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYC6P6KF

tguvot 11mo ago
did you try to disable autonegotiation and force speed ? i think i had to do it a couple of times with copper
- donatj 11mo ago
  Yep. I actually had to do that to get the Ubiqiti one to work. It just did not work when I tried that with the Mikrotik adapter.
  - tguvot 11mo ago
    btw, if you are using 10gbe copper modules, take a look at their temperature. some of mine were getting to 92C i think. had to put a bunch of heatsinks on them
    - LtdJorge 11mo ago
      I put a couple of Noctua NF-14 over the top ventilation holes in my rack, with the silicone mounting thingies and the NA-FC1 PWM controller. They are almost silent in winter. The switch with 10Gb copper is under the fans.
      - tguvot 11mo ago
        i opened switch and put noctua inside to cool sfp cage that i added heatsink to, in addition to heatsinks on sfp+ module itself. it dropped temperature from 92c to 75c. year later i replaced it with fiber run.
  - chopsuei3 11mo ago
    Make sure you also pay attention to the distance rating of the SFP. I had a very similar experience with modules not working at the right speed sometimes. Turned out I was running 50 meters of cable over a 30 meter SFP. Got the correct one, and as low wattage rating as possible and it's been rock solid ever since.
booi 11mo ago
I tried converting everything to copper as well but the copper DACs use a lot of power and ended up not working out due to the greatly increased power usage (mostly because the networking "closet" wasn't really designed for it). So beware if you're moving it to copper

LtdJorge 11mo ago

I have a few SFP+ doing 10GbE over UTP from 10Gtek in a Mikrotik. They work perfectly, although hot (to be expected).

MisterTea 11mo ago
I have found that a fiber patch cable paired with two SFPs is cheaper and more power efficient than an equivalent UTP setup. This lead me to move to all fiber/DAC for 10Gb save for the 10Gb UTP link to my router that lacks SFP. I have the 8 port 10Gb + 1 Gb from mikrotik and the UTP SFP's run stupid hot because they have to drive a cable at GHz speeds. The fiber and DAC (direct attach cable) SFPs are cool to the touch by comparison.

simoncion 11mo ago

> * I will note that the 10gb sfp+ modules from 10gtek on a Mikrotik just don't work. Weird. For the past three years, I've had 10Gtek 10gbit SFP+ optical modules in all of my Mikrotik switches [0] and they Just Work. My switches are the CRS326-24G-2S+, and the SFPs were the "generic" versions. I wonder why yours were so troublesome. [0] ...and (after fixing their eeproms) my Intel x520 NICs...