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Yeah because Amazon engineers are hypocrites. They want you to spend extra money for region failover and multi-az deploys but they don't do it themselves.
by t_sawyer 11mo ago
Yeah because Amazon engineers are hypocrites. They want you to spend extra money for region failover and multi-az deploys but they don't do it themselves.
- ajkjk 11mo agoThey absolutely do do it themselves..
- falcor84 11mo agoWhat do you mean? Obviously, as TFA shows and as others here pointed-out, AWS relies globally on services that are fully-dependent on us-east-1, so they aren't fully multi-region.
- ajkjk 11mo agoThe claim was that that they're total hypocrites aren't multi region at all. That's totally false, the amount of redundancy in aws is staggering. But there are foundational parts which, I guess, have been too difficult to do that for (or perhaps they are redundant but the redundancy failed in this case? I dunno)
- t_sawyer 11mo agoThere's multiple single points of failure for their entire cloud in us-east-1. I think it's hypocritical for them to push customers to double or triple their spend in AWS when they themselves have single points of failure on a single region.
- ajkjk 11mo agoThat's absurd. It's hypocritical to describe best practices as best practices because you haven't perfectly implemented them? Either they're best practice or they aren't. The customers have the option of risking non-redundancy also, you know.
- t_sawyer 11mo agoYes it's hypocritical to push customers to pay you more money with best practices for uptime when you yourself don't follow them and your choices to not follow them actually make the best practices you pushed your customers to pay you more money for not fully work. Hey! Pay us more money so when us-east-1 goes down you're not down (actually you'll still go down because us-east-1 is a single point of failure even for our other regions).
- falcor84 11mo agoThat's a good point, but I'd just s/Amazon engineers/AWS leadership/ , as I'm pretty sure that there's a few layers of management removed between the engineers on the ground at AWS, those who deprioritise any longer-term resilience work needed (which is a very strategic decisioN), and those those who are in charge of external comms/education about best practices for AWS customers.
- ajsnigrutin 11mo agoLuckily, those people are the ones that will be getting all the phonecalls from angry customers here. If you're selling resilience and selling twice the service (so your company can still run if one location fails), and it still failed, well... phones will be ringing.
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- ZeroCool2u 11mo agoThey can't even bother to enable billing services in GovCloud regions.