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I have to assume rather than solving that problem the car will park on the curb and people will be expected to walk down and get it

cudgy 11mo ago
People will love that when it’s raining or in snow. What about in cities where you can’t even find parking? Or you live on the 30th floor of an apartment complex? Lol these companies are so stupid.
- JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
  > What about in cities where you can’t even find parking? Or you live on the 30th floor of an apartment complex? Lol these companies are so stupid Do you think these drivers currently run around with two to a car, one to keep the engine running while they go around the block while the other goes upstairs?
  - cudgy 11mo ago
    Huh? Why would I think that? My comment is regarding the customer. With an automated delivery the customer receives the goods at the location where the delivery vehicle can park near the destination. Without automated delivery, the human receives the goods at their front door.
    - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
      > Without automated delivery, the human receives the goods at their front door Fair enough. Not really an issue in Phoenix. Plenty of buildings (in San Francisco and Atlanta, to memory) require delivery to be dropped off at a centralized location. And there aren’t many high rises, or months of monsoon, in Phoenix.
      - cudgy 11mo ago
        Phoenix would be a city where this will be less of an issue for sure, but you still have two and three story apartment buildings that require customers to go downstairs for their food. Having to go outside significantly reduces the benefit of delivery. Now customers have to interrupt what they’re doing, make sure they look OK so the neighbors don’t see their underwear and bed hair, put on a jacket or raincoat in bad weather, possibly wait on 2 elevators, and pick up their food right next to their own car in the parking lot. In some cases, this could take five minutes. Customer realizes that they could just get in their car and drive to the restaurant at this point, so why order for delivery? Makes no sense.
        JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
        > In some cases, this could take five minutes. Customer realizes that they could just get in their car and drive to the restaurant at this point, so why order for delivery? What? They’d stumble down in pyjamas. If they’re in a building that probably means exiting and re-entering a parking garage. Also, it’s Phoenix. Nothing is five minutes away—the urban plan is one of sprawl. I agree it’s less convenient than door delivery. But against that is the cost of tipping and humans getting lost. For it is the fact that in many major cities, people routinely order food delivery despite being required by building policy to pick it up downstairs.
        cudgy 11mo ago
        I think we’ve exhausted this discussion. It’s reduced down to simple individual opinions about whether it’s worth it to drive to a restaurant or not. I only wanted to point out that The customers are getting less not more. And the companies will make less money because the automated cars are more expensive than drivers that are willing to take food for 2 to 3 dollars a delivery. If you fail to see that or recognize it, I’ll leave it at that.
        JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
        > customers are getting less not more I think plenty of Phoenicians will tip themselves to walk to the curb. > the companies will make less money because the automated cars are more expensive than drivers Disagree. The marginal cost for a late-night Waymo is probably already comparable to that of a driver, and that’s before we get to California’s Prop 22.
- infecto 11mo ago
  You clearly have never used these services or are out of touch. Having a human deliver kind of sucks, lots of risk of tampering with food and it’s overall a terrible experience especially for women. This is a brilliant fix, for the case of folks wanting it physically delivered, I am sure you can or will be able to pay for that.
- School-Cotton 11mo ago
  > when it’s raining or in snow Outside of the late summer monsoon, there is rarely serious rain in Phoenix, and virtually never snow. Probably at least part of why the pilot program is there. There also aren’t many 30-floor residential buildings. Phoenix is basically the quintessential American West suburban sprawl town: outside of a proportionally very small downtown it’s entirely dominated by houses and occasional 2-3 story apartment complexes.

cudgy 11mo ago

People will love that when it’s raining or in snow. What about in cities where you can’t even find parking? Or you live on the 30th floor of an apartment complex? Lol these companies are so stupid.

JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
> What about in cities where you can’t even find parking? Or you live on the 30th floor of an apartment complex? Lol these companies are so stupid Do you think these drivers currently run around with two to a car, one to keep the engine running while they go around the block while the other goes upstairs?
- cudgy 11mo ago
  Huh? Why would I think that? My comment is regarding the customer. With an automated delivery the customer receives the goods at the location where the delivery vehicle can park near the destination. Without automated delivery, the human receives the goods at their front door.
  - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
    > Without automated delivery, the human receives the goods at their front door Fair enough. Not really an issue in Phoenix. Plenty of buildings (in San Francisco and Atlanta, to memory) require delivery to be dropped off at a centralized location. And there aren’t many high rises, or months of monsoon, in Phoenix.
    - cudgy 11mo ago
      Phoenix would be a city where this will be less of an issue for sure, but you still have two and three story apartment buildings that require customers to go downstairs for their food. Having to go outside significantly reduces the benefit of delivery. Now customers have to interrupt what they’re doing, make sure they look OK so the neighbors don’t see their underwear and bed hair, put on a jacket or raincoat in bad weather, possibly wait on 2 elevators, and pick up their food right next to their own car in the parking lot. In some cases, this could take five minutes. Customer realizes that they could just get in their car and drive to the restaurant at this point, so why order for delivery? Makes no sense.
      - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
        > In some cases, this could take five minutes. Customer realizes that they could just get in their car and drive to the restaurant at this point, so why order for delivery? What? They’d stumble down in pyjamas. If they’re in a building that probably means exiting and re-entering a parking garage. Also, it’s Phoenix. Nothing is five minutes away—the urban plan is one of sprawl. I agree it’s less convenient than door delivery. But against that is the cost of tipping and humans getting lost. For it is the fact that in many major cities, people routinely order food delivery despite being required by building policy to pick it up downstairs.
        cudgy 11mo ago
        I think we’ve exhausted this discussion. It’s reduced down to simple individual opinions about whether it’s worth it to drive to a restaurant or not. I only wanted to point out that The customers are getting less not more. And the companies will make less money because the automated cars are more expensive than drivers that are willing to take food for 2 to 3 dollars a delivery. If you fail to see that or recognize it, I’ll leave it at that.
        JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
        > customers are getting less not more I think plenty of Phoenicians will tip themselves to walk to the curb. > the companies will make less money because the automated cars are more expensive than drivers Disagree. The marginal cost for a late-night Waymo is probably already comparable to that of a driver, and that’s before we get to California’s Prop 22.
infecto 11mo ago
You clearly have never used these services or are out of touch. Having a human deliver kind of sucks, lots of risk of tampering with food and it’s overall a terrible experience especially for women. This is a brilliant fix, for the case of folks wanting it physically delivered, I am sure you can or will be able to pay for that.
School-Cotton 11mo ago
> when it’s raining or in snow Outside of the late summer monsoon, there is rarely serious rain in Phoenix, and virtually never snow. Probably at least part of why the pilot program is there. There also aren’t many 30-floor residential buildings. Phoenix is basically the quintessential American West suburban sprawl town: outside of a proportionally very small downtown it’s entirely dominated by houses and occasional 2-3 story apartment complexes.