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This will kill open source. Anything of value will be derived and re-derived and re-re-derived by bad players until no-one knows which package or library to tru

This will kill open source. Anything of value will be derived and re-derived and re-re-derived by bad players until no-one knows which package or library to trust. The fatal flaw of the open internet is that bad players can exploit with impunity. It happened with email, it happened with websites, it happened with search, and now it's happening with code. Greedy people spoil good things.

awesome_dude 1y ago
If this was true, why hasn't it happened for the last... 30 or 40 years that FOSS code has been published on the internet
- ares623 1y ago
  Last i checked LLMs didn’t exist until only a few years ago
- makeitdouble 1y ago
  Copyright was the base protection layer. Not in the "I own it" sense, but in the "you can't take it and run with it" sense. With the current weakening of it, it opens the door to abuses that we don't have the proper tools to deal with now. Perhaps new ones will emerge, but we'll have to see.
- croes 1y ago
  Same reason why fake images and videos are now more. Photoshop existed 30 years ago. Before LLM you needed time and abilities to do it, with AI you need less of both.
- trod1234 1y ago
  Until now, people have had the leverage/cost asymmetry in their favor where they could easily differentiate and make rational choices. AI has tipped that nuanced balance in a way that is both destructive, and unsustainable. Just like any other fraud or ponzi. Cost/loss constraint function now favors the unskilled, blind, destructive individual running an LLM who spits on all those that act with good faith. Quite twisted.
billy99k 1y ago
This was always the case with open source. It's not that hard to obfuscate code in compiled binaries.
squigz 1y ago
Yup, a fundamental side effect of freedom is that some people are assholes and will abuse it. No, it won't kill open source, just as it hasn't killed the Internet.

awesome_dude 1y ago

If this was true, why hasn't it happened for the last... 30 or 40 years that FOSS code has been published on the internet

ares623 1y ago
Last i checked LLMs didn’t exist until only a few years ago
makeitdouble 1y ago
Copyright was the base protection layer. Not in the "I own it" sense, but in the "you can't take it and run with it" sense. With the current weakening of it, it opens the door to abuses that we don't have the proper tools to deal with now. Perhaps new ones will emerge, but we'll have to see.
croes 1y ago
Same reason why fake images and videos are now more. Photoshop existed 30 years ago. Before LLM you needed time and abilities to do it, with AI you need less of both.
trod1234 1y ago
Until now, people have had the leverage/cost asymmetry in their favor where they could easily differentiate and make rational choices. AI has tipped that nuanced balance in a way that is both destructive, and unsustainable. Just like any other fraud or ponzi. Cost/loss constraint function now favors the unskilled, blind, destructive individual running an LLM who spits on all those that act with good faith. Quite twisted.

billy99k 1y ago

This was always the case with open source. It's not that hard to obfuscate code in compiled binaries.

squigz 1y ago

Yup, a fundamental side effect of freedom is that some people are assholes and will abuse it. No, it won't kill open source, just as it hasn't killed the Internet.