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by EnergyAmy 1y ago
Yes
- kelseyfrog 1y agoIs genuine discussion typically like this? I'm not really getting a sense of back and forth. It sounds more like wanting to have one side of a conversation without really inviting a response or room for nuance.
- EnergyAmy 1y agoI directly addressed your statement. "Trans people existing" is a vague statement that avoids talking about specifics. Discourse is toxic because of rhetorical tricks like this where you desperately try to avoid actual discussion.
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- kelseyfrog 1y agoWhat would a good faith response look like to you?
- EnergyAmy 1y agoAddressing the point. Do you agree or disagree that "trans people existing" is too vague to be meaningful? Alternatively, what exactly do you mean by "existing"?
- kelseyfrog 1y agoYou misunderstand the exercise. I'm asking for a demonstration, an example of genuine discussion.
- EnergyAmy 1y agoI don't really know what to tell you, other than that it would help if you stopped being deliberately obtuse. "Genuine discussion" includes responding to the topic of "trans people existing" by pointing out that "existing" is vague and needs further definition. That is genuine discussion, inviting you to clarify what you mean by "existing". I helpfully included a few other relevant bits of genuine discussion that welcome related tangents, but directly responded to your comment with genuine discussion directly about "trans people existing". If you're going to no-true-genuine that conversation that's fine I guess, but I don't really understand the point of wasting time on simple rhetorical tricks that don't fool anyone.
- kelseyfrog 1y agoI'm asking what you think a genuine response would be from someone who disagrees with you. So far, it appears that that doesn't exist. Is there any response you can construct that you feel would meet the criteria of being genuine? It's a very simple request.
- EnergyAmy 1y agoAs per my previous comment: > Do you agree or disagree that "trans people existing" is too vague to be meaningful? Alternatively, what exactly do you mean by "existing"? A genuine response would be responding to that, not metacommentary while refusing to engage. A simple response of "By existing I mean ..." would be perfectly genuine.
- kelseyfrog 1y agoAre you capable of providing an example? yes or no? Happy to read what you think it would constitute.
- EnergyAmy 1y ago"By existing I mean ..."