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It baffles me how much political every aspect of life has become. We can't just talk about things and hold genuine discussion. It always boils down to "us vs. t
by notarget137 1y ago
It baffles me how much political every aspect of life has become.
We can't just talk about things and hold genuine discussion. It always boils down to "us vs. them" standpoint.
- kelseyfrog 1y agoWhat would genuine discussion look like on the topic of trans people existing? I'm not sure I would know how to identify it even if it existed.
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- kelseyfrog 1y agoSorry it's difficult to tell, but is this part of the genuine discussion?
- EnergyAmy 1y agoYes
- kelseyfrog 1y agoIs genuine discussion typically like this? I'm not really getting a sense of back and forth. It sounds more like wanting to have one side of a conversation without really inviting a response or room for nuance.
- EnergyAmy 1y agoI directly addressed your statement. "Trans people existing" is a vague statement that avoids talking about specifics. Discourse is toxic because of rhetorical tricks like this where you desperately try to avoid actual discussion.
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- kelseyfrog 1y agoWhat would a good faith response look like to you?
- EnergyAmy 1y agoAddressing the point. Do you agree or disagree that "trans people existing" is too vague to be meaningful? Alternatively, what exactly do you mean by "existing"?
- kelseyfrog 1y agoYou misunderstand the exercise. I'm asking for a demonstration, an example of genuine discussion.
- EnergyAmy 1y agoI don't really know what to tell you, other than that it would help if you stopped being deliberately obtuse. "Genuine discussion" includes responding to the topic of "trans people existing" by pointing out that "existing" is vague and needs further definition. That is genuine discussion, inviting you to clarify what you mean by "existing". I helpfully included a few other relevant bits of genuine discussion that welcome related tangents, but directly responded to your comment with genuine discussion directly about "trans people existing". If you're going to no-true-genuine that conversation that's fine I guess, but I don't really understand the point of wasting time on simple rhetorical tricks that don't fool anyone.
- notarget137 1y agoYou have demonstrated exactly the point I am making.